Waldorf and Statler Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 I honestly don't know how I've been able to make it this long without getting the "knock two guys out at once" aug. I was trying to be stealthy, but I screwed over in one portion. Too late now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enervation Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Holy Shit, just finished pacifist walkthrough without alarms on "give me Deus Ex". This game is awesome. Saving Malik without killing anyone was HARD. Do robots count against the Pacifist achievement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Just beat the third boss. I felt so smug when What's-her-face presses the control remote towards me saying something like "Visit any LIMB Clinics lately?" and then nothing happened and she freaked out. Oh the lulz I had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Just beat the third boss. I felt so smug when What's-her-face presses the control remote towards me saying something like "Visit any LIMB Clinics lately?" and then nothing happened and she freaked out. Oh the lulz I had That part does actually change, depending on whether you went or not. If, like me, you did go to the LIMB clinic and got the new biochip, all augments are disabled and your HUD is horribly screwed up for the entirety of the boss fight. It gets fixed shortly afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Yeah somebody had warned me that if I was ever offered said offer, to refuse it. To not spoil it further, they told me it was for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Ugh, that first boss was a pain. My cackhandedness with a keyboard did not help either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I think that the first and third boss are the hardest in the game depending on the situation. The first one is definitely the one I had to retry the most times, mainly because he's way too early in the game and nobody has enough augs to fight him correctly. Especially if you're doing the sneaky approach to the game as I was, and I wasn't carrying powerful guns at the time so I had to make him kill himself basically. If I can give a suggestion that really helps out with the second, third and fourth boss battles it would be to get the electric-resisting skin upgrade. Trust me it really helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 I think that the first and third boss are the hardest in the game depending on the situation. The first one is definitely the one I had to retry the most times, mainly because he's way too early in the game and nobody has enough augs to fight him correctly. Especially if you're doing the sneaky approach to the game as I was, and I wasn't carrying powerful guns at the time so I had to make him kill himself basically. Really? Every time he got close to me, I would just pop my cloak and sprint to the other side of the room, then go back to shooting at him. Wasn't that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 It depends what you had invested in. You chose wisely for a useful aug. The same way I got lucky in the third and fourth boss because I had bought the electric-resisting skin [though at that point you have the majority of augs really] I was too focused on getting enough batteries and getting my hacking level up to get the cloak at that point so I had to beat him with a pistol that had no upgrades whatsoever, no items that gave me life besides 1 or 2 painkillers, and whatever I could find in the two rooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maritan Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Holy Shit, just finished pacifist walkthrough without alarms on "give me Deus Ex". This game is awesome. Saving Malik without killing anyone was HARD. Do robots count against the Pacifist achievement? No, they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Just got some very interesting information out of Sarif via my silver tongue... I also have a silly question. I presume that because I'll be switching hubs, it's best to sell the vast array of weapons and ammo I have littered about my living room floor, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Just got some very interesting information out of Sarif via my silver tongue... I also have a silly question. I presume that because I'll be switching hubs, it's best to sell the vast array of weapons and ammo I have littered about my living room floor, right? You'll return to Detroit if you're going to Hengsha for the first time, so don't worry about that. Do be sure to finish any sidequests, though - once you leave, you can't complete them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) You'll return to Detroit if you're going to Hengsha for the first time, so don't worry about that. Do be sure to finish any sidequests, though - once you leave, you can't complete them. Ah. I'd got the message about the sidequests but wasn't sure if I'd be returning and whether my stuff would stay Thanks! Much appreciated. EDIT: While I'm here...anyone have anything to say on this? http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-26-the-best-deus-ex-augmentations-article I would have thought the social enhancer wasn't too necessary, but I guess it's useful if you're not too good at the conversation stuff. Edited August 31, 2011 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Now I've finished I've gone back through the thread Funny thing about that. That same level, where you have to wait for the elevator and defend yourself? I piled vending machines in front of the doorways, and a gas mine at each doorway if they somehow got through. They didn't. I looked at my minimap, and all the soldiers were stuck behind the vending machines and couldn't get past them. Easiest "Defend until X arrives" fight of my life. I even had the sentry reprogrammed too, but I didn't need it at all. Yeah, for that part, I just simply put the two turrets in front of the stairs right next to each other. 99% of the soldiers were mulched as they came through the doors. I say 99% because there was one who cloaked. It was my first encounter with a cloaked enemy, actually, so I didn't realize it was a cloaked guy until I scored a headshot because he had been firing at me while I was looking out of cover and wondering why the air was firing at me. When the lift arrived, I then proceeded to bring the two turrets with me. The next area was absolutely hilarious to play around with the turrets. Nice big, long hallway. One way in, lots of dead bodies. Oh, and my preferred weapon is my 10mm Pistol. Silenced, damage and reload upgraded with AP modification. It pops helmets like balloons. I like playing it quiet and stealthy. I fucking loved the turrets. The part with the lift was way too easy though. I'd already cleared the room with a hacked turret so I just hid beneath the stairs and waited for the screams to stop. I never thought to pick up any turrets to walk about with though. The cloak guys I think were bugged. Some showed with F3, but sometimes they disappeared completely. Became a right bugger to fight them sometimes. Just had to whip out a stronger weapon with spread and fire. Also the didn't de-cloak on death so good luck looting the body Oh, and my preferred weapon is my 10mm Pistol. Silenced, damage and reload upgraded with AP modification. It pops helmets like balloons. I like playing it quiet and stealthy. Yeah, the 10mm becomes (dare I say it?) somewhat overpowered once you pick up the armor-piercing upgrade. I tend to play stealthy as well - typically carry the tranq gun, 10mm, combat rifle, crossbow, and heavy rifle with me. 10mm and combat rifle both have silencers on them (10mm is by far my most used weapon). The 10mm is my preferred weapon throughout, but towards the end the ammo started to get really rare. Also it wasn't as good at popping helmets so I'd get a headshot but all it would do is alert the guards. Even welding helmets started to become effective against it. Actually towards the end it basically became "fuck the weapons you've used all game. You're using the plasma rifle now". I didn't, but the ammo laying about was pretty much "yeah toss your upgraded weapons now, they're now just hunks of metal you can throw". Slightly annoying. My main weapons were the 10mm, stun gun, assault rifle and the silenced sniper I got at the start (which appears to be a pre-order thing so :/) Towards the end I also got the Grenade Launcher which was neat. As for grenades I mostly used EMPs and Gas. Especially as the gas was good against "don't kill them" targets. I did have the PEP n Heavy Rifle for a while. The PEP I never used, the Heavy Rifle I used now n then but it was pretty useless. tbh so was the Assault Rifle most of the time. It's a good "get out of my face" weapon in case you fuck up stealth though, but not much damage. I'm trying to decide whether to be all humane or not. I'm beginning to think this is going to be more fun just killing everyone. I didn't used to care about shooting every bad guy in the head in games but it seems to often these days you get punished for it. I'd change my stance on what I'd do depending on if they were shooting at me or not. And how "army" they looked. So Derelict row was mostly tasers and takedowns. later on they'd get a 10mm to the head. Also when I realized most folks had pocket secretaries on their bodies I didn't just sneak past everyone when I could either, cos otherwise I'd screw myself for later. So, several things this time around: I finally beat the game. I actually sort of expected more to the ending, more so in actually wanting to know what happens to Jensen after you send the message. Fairly lackluster in that. Also, the secret Bob Page post-credit ending. I was actually expecting to see Walton Simons or Joseph Manderley in there, but was disappointed. On top of that, the last boss battle was WAY too easy compared to all the previous ones. I had the Plasma Rifle with plentiful ammunition for it. My standard method of destroying the Hyron system was opening the doors manually using the buttons, retreat using cloak, and then unloading plasma on them. I found that it worked all too well. Afterwards, I just hid on the fence and blew up the security bots with more plasma and then proceeded to unload bullets into Zhao. Boom. Easiest boss battle in the entire game. Yeah the ending is a bit of a bummer. I saved and went with all the endings. All are about the same just slightly different words and images used. Ilizas is the worst though cos I was expecting something a bit more than a black screen and some noises going "plink, gurgle gurlge". I can't see how Darrows would fit with the fact Deus Ex comes a bit later. Sarifs and Ilizas fit the best to Deus Ex I think. I think my proudest moment was when I tried to take a guard out at a distance with a tranq dart but missed. He started looking to see what it was, thus disrupting his normal patrol route, allowing me to sneak past once the other guard had moved. Great success! Ha I had a few like that. I'd miss with the sniper, they'd turn and look at the bullet hole, meaning they just lined themselves up for a shot. There was also a fun time towards the end at the WHO, two guards talking then go separate ways. Guard that stays closer to my position stops and takes out a cigarette. Damn I wish I was streaming then. "Smoking kills" then a bullet passed through his brain. The AI was pretty dumb tbh. They'd rarely check the open vents (I think I saw one do it. A couple did throw grenades into them though) and they only ever went to last known location than scouting the area. Though maybe they get smarter with "Give me Deus Ex". Ugh, that first boss was a pain. My cackhandedness with a keyboard did not help either. I see tons of people say this but I got the first boss, expected something a pain in the ass. And all he does is run in lines. He's piss easy. Drop down remote charges and pump bullets in him when he's running at you or dazed. The columns provide tons of cover too. Unless you've stupidly stripped your backpack of all but a 10mm/stun gun (in which case there's weapons in the side rooms) he shouldn't be hard. So yeah Human Revolution is pretty damn awesome. Definitely a game with repeat playthroughs. Here's hoping for some more in the future. My only big issues is I have a feeling I'll never be able to finish Deus Ex now. There's still Skyrim to come but I'm thinking that my GOTY choice is currently in the bag. It was a pretty damn fine game. The stealth worked quite well. The areas were fantastic. You could go explore a shit ton, and it was all nice n 3D. I kinda disliked the loading of areas in Shanghai mind. It would have been awesome if it was one continuous area. The game did fall apart a bit towards the end. Especially with the zombies. And the above mentioned lack of ammo for early/mid-game guns. But other than that all very fun. Also gfiven I'm playing FFXIII at the moment I would say that I think the "codex/datacore" thing (can't remember the name atm) would have been better if you came across info scattered around. There was also ample refrences to various odds n sods too without being too "nudge nudge, we're a game" type "humour" you see these days. Fun. I shall look forward to being able to afford it. edit: Just saw Thursday post in the "Games you've bought" regarding mission 1. Yeah I did that too. Was kind of annoying since there was no sign you had to go out of your way to save them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Lucky for them I'm on a no shooting person playthrough and will be back to do things right when I am on a shooty-time playthrough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I beat the last boss in what is probably the cheapest way possible Waited for turrets to pass, then hacked the terminal that shut down everything. Then went next to her glasspane, crouching so the robot couldn't see me and just shot at the glass until I killed her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I defeated final boss by: Using a passcode I'd got early in the level on one PC. Then since it was the end I used the rest of my AUGs on the other two PCs. Opened the doors n closed off the cameras on them all. Then worked my way around, ran up to the main panel in stealth, used my final AUG on that and shut down lifesupport. Then she did here mid-fight cutscene and zomie n robots came out. I had electric shielding so I just used grenade launcher on the robots and let the zombies chase me onto the charged floor. Then I EMP grenaded her ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I see tons of people say this but I got the first boss, expected something a pain in the ass. And all he does is run in lines. He's piss easy. Drop down remote charges and pump bullets in him when he's running at you or dazed. The columns provide tons of cover too. Unless you've stupidly stripped your backpack of all but a 10mm/stun gun (in which case there's weapons in the side rooms) he shouldn't be hard. This is as bad as "Works fine for me". I didn't have remote mines. I was lucky to have grabbed a stun gun on my way there. Plus, he took a heck of a load of combat rifle bullets. Took me about five attempts all told but still a nuisance. Especially since his machinegun is so powerful and there are explosive barrels around the outsides where cover is. And cover's no good once he's marched right up to you. Besides being crap at using a keyboard quickly while under pressure (which is almost everything: movement, sprinting, switching between weapons/grenades) my problem was more that I hadn't really settled on a playstyle, so I had no real useful augments. I imagine I'll be better prepared (and upgraded) for any future ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Which build did you use at the start? Main reason I had the remote mines was cos I was given them at the start. (I went with Stealth, close quarters) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) Yeah, I went stealth, long-range. Although it can be a bit tricky, the tranq rifle does have its uses (like my fluffed shot creating a distraction, hehe). At first, I was kinda regretting it but I probably would have fared worse with a stun gun at the start... Just got my stupid self into a tight spot (like, four-patrolling-guards tight) via quick-saving before checking I was all clear. Had to dive into a bathroom in the middle of the room and close the door, before the guards surrounded the whole area in an alarmed state from spotting a guy I'd rushed in and knocked out (it was a trap!). Eventually, they calmed down but I was still stuck there! Of course when I opened the door, it attracted a guard. Fortunately, I had already purchased the cloak augmentation (just the first tier as well!), and activated it at just the right moment when he was checking around. That cloaking really saved my bacon (Americans read: saved my ass). I probably could've loaded an older save, I think the previous auto-save was 8 minutes before, but then I wouldn't have had a story to tell. Edited August 31, 2011 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I beat the last boss in what is probably the cheapest way possible Waited for turrets to pass, then hacked the terminal that shut down everything. Then went next to her glasspane, crouching so the robot couldn't see me and just shot at the glass until I killed her You hacked it? I beat Darrow in the conversation and he flat-out gave me the pass-code. So all I did was simply punch in the code, which shut down both the turrets and life support, and simply shot zombies and robots while I waited for her to slowly die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldorf and Statler Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 He gave me the code, but I felt like hacking it since I wanted to use the level 5 hacking for something. I didn't have to deal with any enemies at all. Only one robot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 So restarted the game, thought I'd see if I could ace the first mission. Didn't notice the first time round that when you're in Sarif at the start you have no hud at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) I played so much today that I had to stop just now because I was actually getting a bit sick of it I'm 14 hours in (in Hengsha) and so far I'm loving the hell out of it. I think so far my biggest disappointment is the music in Hengsha. The soundtrack is great overall. Very subtle and moody. But for Hengsha I was hoping for something more... memorable. Something a bit like this Probably won't be able to play tomorrow, though. Like, at all. Got class early in the morning, class in the afternoon and class in the evening. And another class early friday morning, so I won't have a lot of free time after my evening class... Though it's a bit fucked because normally there are work periods before or after the classes, so thursday is normally my busiest day. But since this is the first day, most classes won't have the work periods, so I'll be stuck with 2+ hours holes in-between. I'll probably end up coming back home between each class, which is about a 30-40 mins subway ride both ways. If my laptop was powerful enough, I'd install Human Revolution on it and find a quiet spot in the school library to play between classes Edited September 1, 2011 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) Loads of stuff here: http://www.something...tion.php?page=1 Page 7 has one that, while funny, contains massive Chinatown spoilers though! Skip the one titled 'Adam Jensen solves a mystery' by vseslav.botkin if you have not seen it. Edited September 1, 2011 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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