Yantelope V2 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-02-rock-band-ios-no-longer-playable-after-31st-may How is it possible that you can be denied playing a game you already purchased through no fault of your own? What crap business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Purchased, or licensed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Purchased or licensed, it is still bull. The consumer had no say in the dropping of the game. Perhaps there is a line in the user agreement that states that Apple, EA or Harmonix can drop the game at anytime or one that states they can add anything in at any time without advance notice which they used to add in that line. Still doesn't make it right though, no matter how it is codified. Eh. Kind of makes you scared to bu- license games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 How exactly can an app just stop working on a specific day? I can understand the music store not working anymore, but the entire game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 EA's a bunch of dick holes. So is Apple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 EA's a bunch of dick holes. So is Apple. They decided they didn't want to be dickholes (as much) anymore. Which on one hand is nice. On the other hand it should be considered "normal". And even worse it means that the theory of "maybe their license for the songs ran out?" wasn't true and EA really were just shutting down the app because they could. I wonder what gave the main nudge though? Rockband dudes weren't actually aware of this and did say they'd be getting in touch with EA, Apple can't be best pleased at how volatile this makes their market look, and obviously the fan backlash isn't all that great either. Probably a combo of all three. Also this could probably go in its own thread, it's not really Apple that were going to disable this app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Well, I put it in here because Apple was still selling it on the store even though it was going to be dead soon. I suppose that might not have been their fault because they might not have known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 "Rock Band for iOS will remain live – the in-app message users received yesterday was sent in error," a representative for EA told us. "We apologize for the confusion this caused. We're working to clarify the issue that caused the error and will share additional information as soon as possible." http://www.joystiq.com/2012/05/03/rock-band-ios-not-canceled/ Translation: It was sent on purpose but then people flipped the fuck out so we changed our minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Translation: It was sent on purpose but then people flipped the fuck out so we changed our minds. That's how I read that too. Still pretty scary that they even tried it to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 I have no knowledge if this was a u-turn or a case of something going wrong somewhere that caused a message that should not have popped up to pop up (and an FAQ to be magically updated and then pulled). Sadly, personally, I think on balance that it is fairly likely something that was done deliberately and then hastily undone. On the plus side, EA are quick to respond to such outbursts, on the downside Mike the Headless Chicken would have been able to tell whoever came to this decision that it was a totally stupid one and it is troubling that such short sighted people are wielding so much influence within the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Fair enough, I give EA credit for reversing their decision in light of public outcry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 I just don't get how decisions like this (if it was a decision) get out the door. Frankly it's an embarrassment. Only a total buffoon would think it was cool to pull an app that was paid for up front by consumers. It's not shutting down a play for free title that had consumable items for sale. It's taking back something that someone bought from you in good faith on the understanding that it would be theirs for as long as they have a device that will run it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 I don't understand why they would do it. Does the game stream assets from EA servers or something? Don't they usually just pull the app from the store and let people who already have it keep it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 I don't understand why they would do it. Does the game stream assets from EA servers or something? Don't they usually just pull the app from the store and let people who already have it keep it? This is what I was getting at. What possible gain is there to be had for EA in making an app completely unplayable for people who already bought it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 To force people to move on and buy another game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 http://www.theverge....-answer-patched So if Siri gives an answer that Apple doesn't like then they'll just "correct" it to give a more Apple positive answer instead. Wouldn't it be fun if while googling for "The best web browser" the only pages that came up were for Chrome and how it's awesome. Surely there's some anti-competition laws been broken here? An independent algorithm suggests a competing phone, so they manually tweak it to suggest their own. Which would potentially mean they're now being untruthful. If you were to put up; a poster of "What is the best phone?" "The Apple iPhone 4S*" "*as chosen by Apple employees", then you're gonna be in a bit of bother. One wonders since they've now shown they have this ability, and that they're willing to use it, how many other queries have Apple interned with already and how many will the step in on in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 That looks very sleazy. To be fair to apple siri gave a "You're kidding right?" response to a number of questions phrased in a similar way. They just missed this wording out. However, the fact that they changed it does make you wonder if they would hesitate for even a second before illegally exploiting a monopoly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Yet another reason to not buy Apple products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Gee, you mean that while using the iPhone, it tells me the iPhone is the best? What an outrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 There is no doubt in my mind that Apple is perfectly willing to exploit their market position however possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Gee, you mean that while using the iPhone, it tells me the iPhone is the best? What an outrage. Search google for "what is the best search engine" and the first result is a top 10 list of search engines. It does not say "Ummm... Google is lol!" Google could do pretty much whatever they wanted with that search term, see "do a barrel roll" or "tilt" or "slant" or "zerg rush". But instead of going for a cheap gag, they produce relevant, useful, unbiased info. While it may not be a monopoly issue, it's still not cool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Yeah, the fact that they're fucking with search results is very not cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Gee, you mean that while using the iPhone, it tells me the iPhone is the best? What an outrage. Search google for "what is the best search engine" and the first result is a top 10 list of search engines. It does not say "Ummm... Google is lol!" Google could do pretty much whatever they wanted with that search term, see "do a barrel roll" or "tilt" or "slant" or "zerg rush". But instead of going for a cheap gag, they produce relevant, useful, unbiased info. While it may not be a monopoly issue, it's still not cool. Doesn't Siri provide a single answer though, and not ten results at once? Siri isn't a search engine per se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 But it's powered by search engines like Google, Bing, Yahoo, and services like Wikipedia and (specifically to the Lumia thing) WolframAlpha, which is a "Knowledge Engine". Wolfram Alpha is pretty much powered by raw hard math and algorithms. It currently suggests the HTC Trophy at the moment with the Lumia 900 down at 4th after the iPhone 4S n 4. What happens when they start expanding their "corrections" across the other services. Editing wiki output to their favour, having specific search terms come up with zero answer if it paints apple in a bad light. It's a bad track to start down. If you know you can edit one search term that paints you in a bad light, you can edit others, so why stop? How do we even know they haven't already. This is just getting attention cos it was kind of funny, but there's plenty of mundane things that folks might not have been so widespread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantelope V2 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Well, isn't a bit stupid of them to advertise how smart Siri is when according to the article it's just pulling a ton of answers from Wolfram Alpha anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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