Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-01/tech/tech_mobile_abortion-clinic-siri-iphone_1_siri-abortion-clinics-abortion-questions?_s=PM:TECH We already know Siri isn't blindly using Google. It gives a very specific answer rather than a ten at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Regardless of which service it uses to answer a given type of question, Apple should not be changing answers to specific questions because they don't like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Why not? They can do what they wish. It's not an open platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Neither is Google Search. Google still can't do what they damn well wish with it. Especially promoting their own products at the expense of other competing products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Yeah, but that's Google's choice. They want their search to be fairly agnostic (with ads) so everyone uses it. Why can't Apple do what they want with their own technology? It's not like they're locking out Google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 It's not googles choice though. At least I wouldn't call it a "choice" when made with two guns from DOJ n EC pointing at the back of their head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 WHY IS APPLE BITING OFF THAT ANDROID'S PENIS?! Furthermore why does that android have a penis?!??!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 It's Asia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 So there's a stir going on the fact that Siri sends everything you say to it to Apple, which we already knew(cos it's how it works). The stir comes in that they're storing it for various reasons along the lines of "improving the service" and marketing n such. IBM have now banned its use. http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-05/23/ibm-bans-siri Which will probably expand across to other companies that are a bit sensitive about Apple potentially having wind of their business details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I bet some of those kids who asked Siri joke questions are feeling pretty awkward right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 We use iPhones quite a bit for work purposes. And, the phones have to be set up to work with our exchange server. In addition, we have the ability, with the use of an app, to be able to log in and view security cameras at our facility. Well, so much for using iPhones. Maybe we'll get a good trade-in value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 ^It really depends on what apps/functions are being used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 The company does not control the app store functions on the iPhone. That is all Apple. Plus, with our extensive security policy, we will probably enforce a change to keep our data safe. Things like security and safety are given a high level of importance within the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I don't get what you're saying. Why wouldn't only something like Siri be disallowed when it's the reason for the security issue? Like I said, it comes down to what is being used, not the platform itself. Unless there's something even beyond CarrierIQ in place though people would have been shitting themselves about that already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevanchist Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I'm not saying it's only Siri. Apple operates within a bunch of rules that are very stringent, and they don't like to share details about any of their IP. And, it's quite noted that the iPhone tracks a lot of shit. As it is, iPhones are viewed as being a hard item to get within our company. They require VP level approval, and the VPs don't like to spend money. Now, add in that IT will be confronted with the possibility of security breaches within the organization stemming from the use of iPhones (perceived or reality). That is more than enough to have the plug pulled on iPhones and have them banned from the company. And since the company doesn't control who puts what apps on what phone, who knows what kind of stuff you can find (most likely, pron). Or, are we talking two different languages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 You're talking about the same stuff. FDS seems to be suggesting that you could / should be somehow restricted in what apps you can access on your iPhone. Not sure if that's a possibility or not. With Siri built in though, and it being unlikely that you'll be able to disable it, it seems like for security concious companies, iPhone use should be restricted to the very lowest levels of the company. Personally, I would never take a work phone unless forced to. Even if it was the latest smart phone. A gilded ball and chain is still a ball and chain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbassman39 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I got a phone for work as well and it happens to be an iPhone. I'm not the biggest fan of the iPhones OS after having used windows phone 7 for a year. As far as taking a work phone I had no issues with it mostly because I spend about 2 to 4 hours a day making calls organizing my projects. I also need to have email and web access when I'm out in the field. Frankly any smart phone would do but the company buys iPhones for whatever reason. Some people are unaware that android and wp7 and even blackberrys are just as capable. Being in construction a touch phone doesn't make sense, but it's not my choose to make One thing I noticed about iPhones now owning one is that people seem to think you are in an exclusive club. Every time I pull it out people say "oh cool you have an iPhone too!" but its only a 3GS. I don't like the attitude that I have this great unmatchable phone because I think the iPhone is limiting when compared to my windows phone... Which is limiting compared to androids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 That attitude among Apple users is part of what turns me off to Apple products in general, not just iPhone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlyingGerbil Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 I know it's not just APple, but I wouldn't make an entire thread for it: Stay Classy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted June 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Patents are proving to be pretty terrible. It's funny, they were made with the idea that it would improve innovation as people could create new products without fear of someone else stealing it for a fair while. But now you can't create products for fear you're stepping on one of the several hundred thousand patents owned by these huge massive corporations (IBM, MS, Apple etc tend to file several thousand new patents a year...each). The whole patent/copyright system is inherently flawed in that if you have money, you make more money because you're the one's able to afford the lawyers to wipe out the other invention/content creators. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Yeah, I think it should be a defense to a patent infringement lawsuit that you invented the thing independently. Patents would still be there to prevent idea-copying/reverse engineering, but if you truly did come up with it on your own you'd be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thursday Next Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 The reason that isn't a defence is because you can see an idea, copy it, but implement it in a different way and you avoid the patent altogether. Two things I would do with patents: 1. Make all patents subject to FRAND rules. That is, you are not allowed to stop people releasing products with the same tech, but you do have the right to demand they take a license and pay you on "Fair, Reasonable And Non-Discriminatory" terms. 2. Make patents waaaay shorter. A couple of years is more than enough time to have an effective monopoly in the technology world. Oh and I'd ban companies that exist solely to exploit IP rights. This company is no different to that Tim Langdell arsehole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57468103-37/apple-bows-out-of-program-for-environment-minded-products/ Apple are pulling out a environmentally friendly certification system (their current devices do suck a fair bit on the recycling front). Thing is, apparently many companies, unis n US gov't require'prefer to buy "EPEAT" certified gear. So could lead to a decrease in profits. maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 So Apple are still suing every other company under the sun, and especially true of their main competitor Samsung. You see Samsung have done the most heinous evil of copying Apples "black rectangular touch screen phone with a button underneath it" design. So they've taken Samsung to court (and for other stuff too) citing a bunch of phones where Samsung copied Apples iconic iPhone design. This includes the Samsung F-700. Problem: The F700 came out before iPhone was announced. So Apple withdrew this from their court case. Samsung had a press release on this, and now Apple are moaning about that to the Judge and want to automatically win their case cos of this press release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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