deanb Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 http://www.scrolls.com/ http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/03/02/minecraft-mojang-reveal-scrolls/ A full-ish write-up on Mojangs second game. Beta release due this year. That's the same type of beta as Minecraft. I'm not much of a fan of TGCs, only ever played Pokemon and certainly nothing on PC like Planeswalkers. A write-up only does so much for me, so I'll pay attention to it cos it's mojang, but I'm not bothered too much. I have a feeling that "from the makers of Minecraft" will give it some allure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel_excel Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I can. not. WAIT. I loved the Pokemon CCG for the Gameboy Color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 See I guess that was part RPG and part TGC. Though I don't think that's what Mojang have in mind with this. Pokemon TGC was fun though. (gameboy version) Always wanted an updated version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgetfulBrain Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Oh man, this looks incredible. I am stoked to see the PA talents go to more gaming use, and combined with that of Mojang, this should be incredible. I've never played much in the way of CCGs, but that's really for lack of friends also interested. Now, that won't be an issue. I was a huuuuge fan of Culcept for 360, despite how atrocious the story, voice acting and graphics were (and that it was the game that bricked my 360 twice) and have always been bummed there aren't more video games that use trading card AND board game elements. (I was interested in that game released recently on Steam, but it's supposed to be garbage) Super duper omega excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I never played any type of card games so I can't say I'm interested at all. However, it seems to be a good idea. Someone on RPS compared Scrolls to Eye of Judgement, I would think Scrolls would do better than EoJ simply because it doesn't require the PS Eye thing or any physical media. Hey, this is closest you can get to irl Yugioh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybronx Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 They've been watching me. They know my love of digital TCG's, seeing my collection come to life before my eyes. *Puts on tinfoil hat* Now, I wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyRan Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 You know why I'm excited for this? Because if it's a board game/card game it won't matter if I have 200,000 ping, I'll still be able to play online acceptably. And god knows Mojang's netcode for multiplayer is beyond hope. I kid, I kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enervation Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 So it's a card game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizzenya Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Hopefully they won't try selling in-game cards for actual money, that just seems greedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgetfulBrain Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Hopefully they won't try selling in-game cards for actual money, that just seems greedy. Ha. Ever heard of a game called 'Battleforge?' CCG meets RTS. Used to be retail, then they switched to F2P, and the card buying mechanics became more prominent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizzenya Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Hopefully they won't try selling in-game cards for actual money, that just seems greedy. Ha. Ever heard of a game called 'Battleforge?' CCG meets RTS. Used to be retail, then they switched to F2P, and the card buying mechanics became more prominent. I was thinking more along the lines of the Magic Online game that has you buy virtual packs of cards to play with and Eye of Judgment that worked with real cards you bought or something. This system reminds me of F2P games that basically sell shortcuts to advance in the game. It cheapens the game by making it less about mastering the game and more about dropping more and more cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanb Posted March 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Hopefully they won't try selling in-game cards for actual money, that just seems greedy. You read the article? You buy the game get a random pack, then you can buy booster packs n such if you want, they're planning on having in other methods of acquiring cards like winning them from other players (optional). Which does make me much less of a fan. I'm the kind of guy who likes to buy the game, and that's it. Not so keen on DLC. Especially micro-transactions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheForgetfulBrain Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Hopefully they won't try selling in-game cards for actual money, that just seems greedy. Ha. Ever heard of a game called 'Battleforge?' CCG meets RTS. Used to be retail, then they switched to F2P, and the card buying mechanics became more prominent. I was thinking more along the lines of the Magic Online game that has you buy virtual packs of cards to play with and Eye of Judgment that worked with real cards you bought or something. This system reminds me of F2P games that basically sell shortcuts to advance in the game. It cheapens the game by making it less about mastering the game and more about dropping more and more cash. Well yeah, I should have been clearer - that's what Battleforge was like. You started with a base set of cards, bought points (with cash) and then used those points to either buy virtual packs of cards or specific cards on the player auction house. You could earn some cards through other means, but buying them was the main way. It looks to be the same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizzenya Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Hopefully they won't try selling in-game cards for actual money, that just seems greedy. You read the article? You buy the game get a random pack, then you can buy booster packs n such if you want, they're planning on having in other methods of acquiring cards like winning them from other players (optional). Which does make me much less of a fan. I'm the kind of guy who likes to buy the game, and that's it. Not so keen on DLC. Especially micro-transactions. I read an article on joystiq and it wasn't clear if you had to buy the cards or not. The RPS one was much more thorough and disheartening. As an ex-magic player, I hate collectible card games. Trying to build a tournament deck is ridiculously expensive and can run several hundred dollars and then once those cards are no longer allowed in tournaments their value drops significantly and you need to get even more cards to compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 The main problem with this game is how you get the cards. It requires money from you. For any intial buyers, this game poses a pretty big risk of failing by not getting a large enough player base to support it. Then there is the thing of this game getting shuttered and in turn, losing everything you invested in it or making you unable to play with anybody. I do hope for the best to Mojang on this game. It could be good but I'm quite sure it won't have nearly as big of a fanbase as Minecraft has. I'm willing to bet the fanbase will be even less than 50% or even 25% of Minecraft's. We'll see in the coming months and when alpha or beta hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I've sworn off collectible card games. The things Magic: The Gathering did to my wallet should be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Reviving with this: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/36403/Bethesda_Targets_Mojangs_Scrolls_For_Trademark_Infringement.php http://notch.tumblr.com/post/8519901309/bethesda-are-suing-us-heres-the-full-story http://twitpic.com/61cckm/full (In Swedish) I'm scratching my head quite a bit on this story. This seems like a really terrible legal deathtrap for Bethesda. Almost reminds me of that one case that one big company had with a video game company back in the 80's or 90's. I forget whom against who though. Short story, big company had a terrible case against the small company and it was just them being money hungry douches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirandello Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 From what I understand of it, they aren't even suing him yet. They're just using the threat of legal action to try to have him change the name. This whole situation is just brewing out to be another repeat Tim Langdell case, only with different people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Best part of it is, Notch has actually sat down and had talks before with the guy leading Skyrim development, and both were really big fans of the others work. This is just Bethesda legal going after something, and Notch himself has stated that he isn't too worried about it and that the claims don't have much substance to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faiblesse Des Sens Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I can't wait to play this. I just hope the dragons are actually cool instead of half-assed like so many games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 The legal threat is bullshit and if Notch gives in, we're in for more ridiculous claims. I'm very interested in seeing how Scrolls turns out. I love TCGs and would often try creating my own. I think it's a given that we're going to have to buy cards if it's a TCG because for a business, that's one of the major reasons to create a TCG in the first place so I can live with that as long as the packs are fairly priced and I don't have to buy 20 packs to have a chance of getting 1 rare card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I don't think I'll be playing it. Financial issues aside, I'm not comfortable with paying for digital collectibles. Real cards, I'm ok with. It's just a quirk of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgamemnonV2 Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) I like how the Notch Defense Brigade has been comparing Edge Games with this. Yeah, because, as we all know, Bethesda Softworks hasn't produced a title in ten years, and even then that said title was an unknown blip (and, furthermore, Bethesda is an unknown studio anyway). Right, perfect comparison. Because a card game called Scrolls with Vikings and magic stuff can't possibly be confused with the super-popular The Elder Scrolls with Vikings and magic stuff. Anyway, I think it's a real waste of time. I've heard the whole, "It's another team, it's not affecting Minecraft dev time," but that's a load of horse-crap. Notch is still thinking small with Minecraft and yet the thing has the potential to make Facebook look like chum's work when it comes to revenue-making possibilities. Instead he's got a super-small team handling a Valve-sized fanbase. And Christ, at least there's a hundred people working at Valve. I can only imagine what Minecraft would look like if he actually took a look at the top ten mega-overhaul mods and said, "Hm, maybe I should actually add something more than just shears." And I get the Adventure Update is supposed to be that, but it still doesn't fly with me considering that he probably could've knocked it out in a month if he had a bigger team. Edited August 10, 2011 by AgamemnonV2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDex Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 I think the comparison to Edge Games is somewhat relevant because when it boils down to it, both cases are about the ability to trademark a single, common word. I think that's crazy. Yes we can say that there is some similarity between TES and Scrolls in that they're both based on Fantasy and have the word scrolls in their title but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgamemnonV2 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 I think the comparison to Edge Games is somewhat relevant because when it boils down to it, both cases are about the ability to trademark a single, common word. I think that's crazy. Yes we can say that there is some similarity between TES and Scrolls in that they're both based on Fantasy and have the word scrolls in their title but that's about it. That's kind of like saying, "Yes, there's some similarities to Dungeon & Dragons and Lord of the Rings, like halflings, dwarves, elves, and orcs, but that's about it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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