Things gamers do/say that piss you off

[RockyRan]

We've discussed what pisses us off in games, but let's discuss what pisses us off in the PEOPLE who play games. I'll give off a couple:

 

1. People who buy retail games and proceed to throw the box and manuals away, only keeping the disc in some disc binder. As someone who treats the box, its boxart, the manual, etc., as part of the whole package that I'm buying when I get a game, this drives me up the wall. It's not an appliance box intended to be thrown away, people.

 

2. People who complain when a game is "too easy" and when you ask them what difficulty they played, they say "normal" and sometimes even on "easy". The latter is straight up facepalm inducing, but the former is a little more subtle in terms of annoying. I've heard this several times in games like Arkham Asylum and BioShock, particularly with BioShock. Complaints about low cost of items and tripping over tons of supplies is EASILY rectified by a simple difficulty spike, and if they don't like the EVE machines how about *GASP!* turning it off? I totally understand complaints when a game is too easy and there's no real way of increasing difficulty unless you impose artificial handicaps on yourself, but complaining that a game is too easy when there's literally a MAKE GAME HARD button staring at their face?

[Pirandello]

I am partially guilty for number 1, actually. Though nowadays, I do keep my boxes and manuals arranged in my own storage area.

 

As for me:

 

1. People who make assumptions about a game before its even released. I judge by my own criteria when I fucking play the damn game (especially if I think it's good), so why doesn't anyone else?

 

2. Multiplayer manners. This requires no explanation.

 

3. People who dismiss a game simply based upon a lukewarm first impression. I.E. "Minecraft is a silly kid's game."

 

4. (This one is a bit more personal): Those that preach JRPGs as the greatest thing to happen since sliced bread. I don't like them, I tend to find almost every aspect of JRPGs as to be quite shallow (story, characters, combat, etc, especially so in a modern-day-based world where I must question as to why the main characters aren't suiting up like the fucking Batman with a gadget for every damn contingency). For further explanation, please read this.

[R__]

Childish attitudes. 99% of them have it.

[Sindo]

I got to about number 10 in the list before I quit. Complete bullshit. Not even half of JRPGs follow those rules. I like JRPGs, you don't. That's fine. Just please don't praise Western games as something better. They suffer from just as many faults, there's just hasn't been as many games released.

[TheMightyEthan]

I've seen that list before and find it hilarious, but not due to any hostility toward JRPGs. I just thought it was funny. No need to get so upset Sindo.

[Sindo]

Well I kinda just took that list and ran with it. One of my peeves is when gamers try to force WRPGs down my throat while trying to explain to me how horrible JRPGs are. (Not saying you did that Pirandello) I'd just rather we stick to the games we like and not force others to like them.

[CorgiShinobi]

When gamers mix their cartridges and discs with their respective cases.

 

"Hey buddy, ol' pal of mine... would you be bothered if I borrow this game? You don't mind? Cool! Say, where would it happen to be... It's not in the case, and I've checked that game's case. What? It's somewhere in that pile of junk?"

 

*five minutes*

 

"It wasn't there, and there was something sticky/smelly I touched!"

Edited March 11, 2011 by Atomsk88

[ZTF]

People who pick up a game that features a sexualized female on the cover or predominantly in the advertisements and are somehow SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED by the DISGUSTING amounts of MALE SHOGUNISTIC SEXISM in the game. It's like picking up a porno and raging about the nudity in it.

Edited March 11, 2011 by ZTF

[TheMightyEthan]

So because something's openly sexist it's not okay to criticize it for being sexist?

 

[Pirandello]

MALE SHOGUNISTIC SEXISM

I believe the correct word is 'chauvinistic'.

[Mercurial]

People who make these kinds of threads.

[Strangelove]

Using the word "casual."

[ZTF]

So because something's openly sexist it's not okay to criticize it for being sexist?

 

I could do without the righteous indignation that is usually just a vain attempt to stir up controversy (because if there's anything good for pageviews, it's controversy). Also, I frankly don't see anything wrong exploitive entertainment. If the meatheads who watch/play/read these things actually think that this stuff is tolerable in the real world, I don't feel the need to put any blame on the creator or publisher. Entertainment is escapism. What a person wants to do with and take away from that entertainment is entirely his or her own choice and responsibility.

 

I believe the correct word is 'chauvinistic' .

Fuck that, we're getting Sengoku up-ins'.

[BrainHurtBoy...2]

Basically, what Sindo said.

There's far, far too much praise for WRPGs and far, far too much hate for JRPGs. There's good and bad in both, people!

Also, newer gamers have the capacity to piss me off. Though I love a new influx of fans into the medium, when someone tells me CoD 4 is their favorite game of all time, I die a little inside.

Also, I read something on RPS a while ago about how one of those guys was talking to a newer, but hardcore, gamer about Fallout 3. The newer gamer listed a whole bunch of things, explaining why he loved Fallout 3 so much, when the RPS guy realized the man was simply describing an RPG, and he truly didn't realize any games had done this sort of thing before. This has happened to me a few times before, and when someone says they love Fallout 3, and I refer them to another RPG, they can't get the idea out of their head that there's simply no other game in Fallout 3's genre. It's weird and unsettling to me that there are people in a medium I know so well and so thoroughly that don't even realize, and often refuse to realize, that there's an entire genre out there they haven't heard of or played. While new gamers could be good for the medium, their calling themselves 'hardcore gamers' when all they do is put hours and hours of playtime into Call of Duty and Gears of War (not that they aren't quality games) is just weird to me. I understand the medium is changing and gamers along with it, but some of these changes are strange and shaking.

[Johnny]

Oh jeez that list is long.

The usage of "casual" and "hardcore"

The constant entitlement ("How DARE they change what I liked about the franchise!?") (Heh. I'm kinda guilty of this regarding Super Smash Bros. Brawl.)

Blaming consoles.

Blaming console gamers.

Blaming pirates.

Blaming elitism.

Just finger-pointing in general, really.

Genre wars.

Franchise wars.

People who buy day-one DLC while whining about it.

People who buy CODBLOPS while whining about it.

People that choose to whine instead of voting with their wallets in general.

Also, everyone who bought Modern Warfare 2. Seriously, fuck that shit.

Taking reviews like gospel.

Taking anything GameTrailers says at face value.

Giving Michael Pachter any kind of attention (including me mentioning him in this post)

Claiming Brawl is anything less than the spawn of the devil.

Blaming other players for huge design flaws in multiplayer games.

So much more.

[Gigawings]

I am partially guilty for number 1, actually. Though nowadays, I do keep my boxes and manuals arranged in my own storage area.

 

As for me:

 

1. People who make assumptions about a game before its even released. I judge by my own criteria when I fucking play the damn game (especially if I think it's good), so why doesn't anyone else?

 

2. Multiplayer manners. This requires no explanation.

 

3. People who dismiss a game simply based upon a lukewarm first impression. I.E. "Minecraft is a silly kid's game."

 

4. (This one is a bit more personal): Those that preach JRPGs as the greatest thing to happen since sliced bread. I don't like them, I tend to find almost every aspect of JRPGs as to be quite shallow (story, characters, combat, etc, especially so in a modern-day-based world where I must question as to why the main characters aren't suiting up like the fucking Batman with a gadget for every damn contingency). For further explanation, please read this.

 

 

What I hate: People who try to justify his hatred to a genre by using someone else list as a shield he can get behind, things in that list is mostly generalization from few games.

 

Both JRPG and WRPG both share the same possibilites for some developers to produce either great or crap games.

[Cyber Rat]

The fact that most lack any empathy or an idea of fun, that everyone seems to have an art degree and that they use analogies like they pulled them out of their buttholes.

[HotChops]

whew... wow. I love how people are throwing out shit like an episode of the Real World, lol.

 

Also, everyone who bought Modern Warfare 2. Seriously, fuck that shit.

 

lol, that's more than 20 million people.

 

I guess I can add a couple of things:

 

When people say things like "IGN sucks, they reviewed Mario Kart for Wii at 9.1, but Splinter Cell Conviction at only 8.9!!!" Apparently they forget that there's different writers, different genres, different systems, vague undefined score systems, it's about the review's content and not the score anyway, etc. etc.

 

I'm little bit annoyed with my friends who try to uphold this lame standard among us about ALWAYS playing a game on the hardest difficulty, and if possible, on the first playthrough. Stupid XBL tells the world when I'm playing a game on casual, and then I actually have to take shit for it. There are about a dozen reasons why I rarely play games on harder difficulty settings, two of them being that I'm a 28-year-old grad school student with little time for games these days anyhow.

[Enervation]

People who buy CODBLOPS while whining about it.

 

I'm actually one of the few people who like BLOPS. It's the first Call of Duty I've played since CoD2, and its pretty nice.

[Pirandello]

I am partially guilty for number 1, actually. Though nowadays, I do keep my boxes and manuals arranged in my own storage area.

 

As for me:

 

1. People who make assumptions about a game before its even released. I judge by my own criteria when I fucking play the damn game (especially if I think it's good), so why doesn't anyone else?

 

2. Multiplayer manners. This requires no explanation.

 

3. People who dismiss a game simply based upon a lukewarm first impression. I.E. "Minecraft is a silly kid's game."

 

4. (This one is a bit more personal): Those that preach JRPGs as the greatest thing to happen since sliced bread. I don't like them, I tend to find almost every aspect of JRPGs as to be quite shallow (story, characters, combat, etc, especially so in a modern-day-based world where I must question as to why the main characters aren't suiting up like the fucking Batman with a gadget for every damn contingency). For further explanation, please read this.

 

 

What I hate: People who try to justify his hatred to a genre by using someone else list as a shield he can get behind, things in that list is mostly generalization from few games.

 

Both JRPG and WRPG both share the same possibilites for some developers to produce either great or crap games.

Glad you could find something to talk about in this thread.

 

My initial experience was that JRPGs tended to have more of the things that I disliked (bad characters, bad story, bad combat, etc, mostly bad characters) much more so than WRPGs ever did. That's why I don't like it when people try to laud JRPGs to me as the best thing since sliced bread.

 

That, and I don't like turn-based combat, which I find very banal. Most likely due to my upbringing in real-time twitch-based games like Counterstrike.

[CorgiShinobi]

I agree with the "casual" and "hardcore" distaste/disgust.

 

Those "groups" have always existed, it's just that someone at some point a few years ago started defending himself as "hardcore" and that people who play "casually" don't blah blah BLAH!

[Cyber Rat]

I am partially guilty for number 1, actually. Though nowadays, I do keep my boxes and manuals arranged in my own storage area.

 

As for me:

 

1. People who make assumptions about a game before its even released. I judge by my own criteria when I fucking play the damn game (especially if I think it's good), so why doesn't anyone else?

 

2. Multiplayer manners. This requires no explanation.

 

3. People who dismiss a game simply based upon a lukewarm first impression. I.E. "Minecraft is a silly kid's game."

 

4. (This one is a bit more personal): Those that preach JRPGs as the greatest thing to happen since sliced bread. I don't like them, I tend to find almost every aspect of JRPGs as to be quite shallow (story, characters, combat, etc, especially so in a modern-day-based world where I must question as to why the main characters aren't suiting up like the fucking Batman with a gadget for every damn contingency). For further explanation, please read this.

 

 

What I hate: People who try to justify his hatred to a genre by using someone else list as a shield he can get behind, things in that list is mostly generalization from few games.

 

Both JRPG and WRPG both share the same possibilites for some developers to produce either great or crap games.

Glad you could find something to talk about in this thread.

 

My initial experience was that JRPGs tended to have more of the things that I disliked (bad characters, bad story, bad combat, etc, mostly bad characters) much more so than WRPGs ever did. That's why I don't like it when people try to laud JRPGs to me as the best thing since sliced bread.

 

It's not really that characters/story in JRPGs are bad, it's just a completely different narrative approach than Western RPGs. To be honest, I've seen awful characters and story in Western RPGs ("critically acclaimed" ones) just as often as I've seen them in JRPGs.

[Thursday Next]

Piracy. Hate it. Can't stand it. Don't agree with any of the justifications for it. To the point where my opinion of a person drops the when they say they do it.

 

Take for example, Dean and Ethan, both good guys, get on well enough with them on the forum, but I actually flinch any time either of them mentions their piracy habits (mostly because I respect them both and I always feel a little disappointed in them), and Johnny, who I don't particularly know or like, probably due to the frequency with which he refers to his copyright infringing ways.

 

Other than that, manners, in all forms. From forums to in-game, trash talk to griefing. But that doesn't really count because it applies to the world in general not just gamers. There's a huge deficit in people generally being decent to one another, to the point where people are actually surprised when you thank a waiter for bringing over your food, or hold a door open for someone.

 

NOTE: Dean, Ethan, Johnny, I'm not going to patronise any of you by claiming no offence was intended, I'm well aware that you may be offended by my comments. I'm just being honest so let me add here that I do respect all three of you for being honest, not just about the piracy, but of your opinions in all things on the forum, I just don't agree with you on some points.

[Cyber Rat]

Piracy. Hate it. Can't stand it. Don't agree with any of the justifications for it. To the point where my opinion of a person drops the when they say they do it.

 

Take for example, Dean and Ethan, both good guys, get on well enough with them on the forum, but I actually flinch any time either of them mentions their piracy habits (mostly because I respect them both and I always feel a little disappointed in them), and Johnny, who I don't particularly know or like, probably due to the frequency with which he refers to his copyright infringing ways.

 

Other than that, manners, in all forms. From forums to in-game, trash talk to griefing. But that doesn't really count because it applies to the world in general not just gamers. There's a huge deficit in people generally being decent to one another, to the point where people are actually surprised when you thank a waiter for bringing over your food, or hold a door open for someone.

 

NOTE: Dean, Ethan, Johnny, I'm not going to patronise any of you by claiming no offence was intended, I'm well aware that you may be offended by my comments. I'm just being honest so let me add here that I do respect all three of you for being honest, not just about the piracy, but of your opinions in all things on the forum, I just don't agree with you on some points.

 

Yay! I wasn't mentioned.

 

I'm actually ok with trash talk if it's the good-natured kind between friends where you're just messing around. The zomg-noob-cheater-baseraper-learn-to-use-a-weapon-that-requires-skill stuff is why I mostly play games only with people I know or if it's a squad based game like BC2, with at least one person I know on my squad.

[Thursday Next]

 

Yay! I wasn't mentioned.

 

I'm actually ok with trash talk if it's the good-natured kind between friends where you're just messing around. The zomg-noob-cheater-baseraper-learn-to-use-a-weapon-that-requires-skill stuff is why I mostly play games only with people I know or if it's a squad based game like BC2, with at least one person I know on my squad.

 

A minor oversight.

 

I think there's a difference between "Banter" and "Trash Talk".

 

For example, someone on Hot Pursuit said that my Bee Yellow Camero was a piece of crap car and that he was gonna bust me first. I told him he was going to feel rather silly once I was done kicking his arse in a piece of crap Bee Yellow Camero (I've never been so glad to win a race).

 

It was all good humoured and inoffensive.