Hot Heart Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) I don't think I liked any of the bosses at all. The fact that they rekindled those awful titan battles from Asylum, not once but twice, was unforgivable. I know they were used in City, but they never overstayed their welcome or left a bad taste in the mouth. That last bit with Bane... my god... Edited July 27, 2014 by Hot Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I thought Deathstroke was a huge disappointment. For starters, he shouldn't have been the first boss, and aside from that the combat system in the Arkham games is not nearly deep enough to make a simple one-on-one fistfight interesting. It's much more suited for large groups of enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiShinobi Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) Yeah, but therein lies Lady Shiva's boss fight where you have the goofy ninjas and the Counter-Counter-Hit trash. To be honest, the only boss fights I remember of all the Arkham games have been the ones that were unique to the common combat with the thugs. Mr. Freeze, Scarecrow, Clayface, even Ra's al Ghul were memorable, but all of Origins was... meh. Edited July 28, 2014 by Atomsk88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecha Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 I haven't played Origins yet...kind have been put off by what most people feel about it. Maybe when it goes on sell for 5 or ten bucks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Origins wasn't a bad game really but it had a very tough act to follow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) You guys didn't like the Deathstroke fight?? Since Mister Jack mentioned he was the first boss, I rushed him to see what the fuss was about. At first it was pure counters, with a few punches thrown in before he attacks. But with a little effort it became good. I alternated the batclaw (clothesline, pretty cool!), jumping and attacking him from behind, and just punching him head on after counters. Not a button mash either, you kinda have to time the punches and jumps to keep the combo up. Good choreography, too. It was pretty good. I wonder if you guys were really just burnt out when you played this. Edited July 28, 2014 by Agent 1011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. GOH! Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Arkham Origins was boring, from the plot to the gameplay to the world design. That was its problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) I liked the Deathstroke fight. Honestly, boss fights were never this series strong suit and that's one area where I feel Origins was a slight improvement. I'll take something like Deathstroke, Shiva or Firefly (or even City's Ra's Al Ghul) over another "beat up goons for a while then rip another tube off of Bane" fight any day. Edited July 28, 2014 by FLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) I'm in the "liked Deathstroke" camp. It was simplistic, but totally did the trick. Also doing it without counter notices was sick. One feels like an absolute badass if one manages it without heads ups. I actually liked all of Origins a lot. I preferred it to City. Controversial, I know. My main beef was that, to me, City felt like Arkham Asylum 1.5. The map was barely bigger, though you had more freedom to traverse it. The story was utterly tiny. The side content was okay, not amazing. Arkham City had the most irritating world that looked like a shitty circus, and took about 1 minute to traverse in entirety. Then Origins felt, to me, like what City should have been from the start. It felt like the real Arkham Asylum 2. It had a properly big map which, even though a lot more filler, was a ton of fun to explore. It looked drab but that felt more realistic. It had lots of empty corners but they were still nice to look at and felt like they had a place in Gotham. And all the little additions to gameplay were great. Even the bosses- I liked almost all of em. Also the Joker/ Batman "origins" scene. Fucking brilliantly done. And everyone seems to forget that. Troy Baker having a massive monologue about the Joker trying to psychologically wrestle with his first encounter with Batman. While we get to play him in a little Scarecrow-style section. Just brilliant. I think Origins' only true problem was the fucking Worst Nightmare challenge thing. Like you how can't progress past Level 6 or whatever once you've done the GCPD building. That was genuinely fucked up, and more of a huge error than bad-but-playable design. I really liked everything about Origins except that. Edited August 18, 2014 by kenshi_ryden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangelove Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I'm in the "liked Deathstroke" camp. It was simplistic, but totally did the trick. Also doing it without counter notices was sick. One feels like an absolute badass if one manages it without heads ups. I actually liked all of Origins a lot. I preferred it to City. Controversial, I know. My main beef was that, to me, City felt like Arkham Asylum 1.5. The map was barely bigger, though you had more freedom to traverse it. The story was utterly tiny. The side content was okay, not amazing. Arkham City had the most irritating world that looked like a shitty circus, and took about 1 minute to traverse in entirety. Then Origins felt, to me, like what City should have been from the start. It felt like the real Arkham Asylum 2. It had a properly big map which, even though a lot more filler, was a ton of fun to explore. It looked drab but that felt more realistic. It had lots of empty corners but they were still nice to look at and felt like they had a place in Gotham. And all the little additions to gameplay were great. Even the bosses- I liked almost all of em. Also the Joker/ Batman "origins" scene. Fucking brilliantly done. And everyone seems to forget that. Troy Baker having a massive monologue about the Joker trying to psychologically wrestle with his first encounter with Batman. While we get to play him in a little Scarecrow-style section. Just brilliant. I think Origins' only true problem was the fucking Worst Nightmare challenge thing. Like you how can't progress past Level 6 or whatever once you've done the GCPD building. That was genuinely fucked up, and more of a huge error than bad-but-playable design. I really liked everything about Origins except that. http://www.hark.com/clips/vccpngwvxd-boo-button 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toxicitizen Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 For some reason, I thought this was confirmed to be coming out around February or March. But June? Was it delayed again or did I dream up that Feb/Mar thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I had the same thought. I think everyone assumed it was February or March, but I don't know that it was ever confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 It was definitely an assumption on the audience's part. And this is utterly devastating. Especially because being UK side i read it as 6 February, which makes so much more sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 IS IT JUNE YET?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 JUNE?! WHAT HAPPENED TO FEBRUARY?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Lol. Not sure if you're joking but if you aren't then go back like 4 posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Lol, apparently I keep blocking that information out. It's just too painful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Fuck it's the absolute worst isn't it At least... it could be a sign...? They did the same thing with Asylum right? And that was the best one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicitizen Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I can't interpret a delay as anything other than a good thing. It shows a willingness to recognize that a game isn't ready to be released. That only benefits us in the end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Heart Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 They did the same thing with Asylum right? And that was the best one! Dean! You know the drill. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Anyone who's anyone knows Asylum is the best, foo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyEthan Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 City. It's not even a contest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Jack Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Those sneaky devs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomTervo Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) City. It's not even a contest. Nahhhhhh City improved all gameplay mechanics but utterly funked most of the level design and pacing (I still love it btw) I only say Arkham Asylum was best because it was so, so tight (bar the final boss fight, and arguably the Killer Croc fight.) It was concise, fit together like a 3D jigsaw, and had unbelievably good and memorable level design. It was designed like a representation of Batman himself: compartmentalized and controlled, a solved puzzle. It was like the Portal of superhero games. Almost perfect in size and quality. Edited November 26, 2014 by kenshi_ryden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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