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Was it public knowledge before release that the Arkham Knight port wasn't being done by Rocksteady themselves?  I never heard anything about it before the game was already out and I'm starting to feel like it should be illegal to withhold that kind of information if that's what was going on.

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All of that's true, but suspending purchases now doesn't have any effect on people who already preordered, and I'm sure nowhere close to 100% of ongoing pouches would turn into refunds, so they're losing money by doing this.

 

It's worth noting that even after a steam refund, Valve keeps their 30% cut, so each refund actually costs WB Games that extra 30%.

 

 

Really? That doesn't sound right to me. Refunds are normally an allowable deductible in royalty bearing agreements. (Or at least they are when I draft them).

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Absolutely loving this game. It seems insanely divisive in some corners, but for me it's far overtaking Arkham Asylum for being the Bat-game.

 

Story seems pretty great too, except for the Arkham Knight, who ranges from okay to really shit. It's also totally obvious who he is. And I haven't even found out who he is yet.

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TN is right; it's insane that any company with lawyers worth their salt would sign off on an agreement that allows to retailer to keep its percentage of the original sale when issuing full refunds to consumers. I have only seen such fuckery in sloppy agreements drafted by people who did not know what they were doing, usually the owners of a small business who decided not to spend a couple grand on a lawyer. 

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It's also totally obvious who he is. And I haven't even found out who he is yet.

Yeah, same here. I think I got spoiled online but it's kinda hard to tell for sure because I've been saying the same thing since the initial reveal. Could've easily just been someone guessing/stating the obvious.

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It's some stuff that got passed around by some of the arty farty indies upset their 4 minute games were being abused by Valve and their refund system. Seems to have stuck.

Were they upset their games were getting abused, or just that they might be abused? Cause I only ever heard people worried that it would happen, never heard about it actually happening.

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It's also totally obvious who he is. And I haven't even found out who he is yet.

 

I sorta think I know who it is but

 

i got a a Red Hood steam card other day, somewhat throwing my theory out the window. Could maybe be Damien. Which would tie in with Talia being in the previous games, his access to military stuff, n wanting to wear the cowl.

 

 

@they're upset on incorrect interpretation of Valve's refund policy thinking valve were having their cake n eating it at art haus expense. 

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I sorta think I know who it is but

 

i got a a Red Hood steam card other day, somewhat throwing my theory out the window. Could maybe be Damien. Which would tie in with Talia being in the previous games, his access to military stuff, n wanting to wear the cowl.

 

Keep in mind I still haven't had in-game confirmation since I've put the game on hold until it gets patched, but...

 

 

 

not sure if you're aware but Red Hood has a story DLC that's exclusive to some retailer. If it's anything like the Harley Quinn one, it'll take you all of 20mins to beat, will be massively half-assed and kinda fucking boring.

 

In other words, I believe that was a blatant red herring. From the initial reveal, plenty of people went "Yeah, that's probably Jason Todd." So when they revealed story DLC for Red Hood, to me that just kinda seemed like a desperate "No, the Arkham Knight is totally not Jason Todd. See? Here's a Red Hood DLC!" I can't believe some people actually instantly fell for it.

 

 

 

Also, for something a little more convincing (and probably actually spoilerish in this case)

 

 

 

I've been replaying Trails in the Sky this week and there's very little in the way of voice acting, just battle grunts and victory quotes. But one of the characters kinda sounded like Troy Baker and the game was recorded well before he blew up, so I thought it was possible. So, I went on IMDB to see if he had a credit for the game and looking at his page I couldn't help but notice that he was credited as voicing Jason Todd in Arkham Knight.

 

So, first off, it's incredibly unlikely they'd hire someone like Troy Baker just for a small DLC pack. Like, straight up makes no sense. But more importantly, even through the voice module thing he has going on, I recognized Troy Baker pretty much instantly the first time the Arkham Knight said something. So, yeah... there it is.

 

That still leaves the possibility they already had Troy and went "Yeah, while we have you, can you do this small DLC thing as well?", though. After all, VAs often play multiple parts, a main one and multiple smaller ones like thugs and whatnot. But personally, I'm pretty sure that's Jason Todd at this point.

 

 

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I've barely made much progress, but from my limited playtime...

 

 

I noticed Arkham Knight refers to Batman as "old man", which could be nothing but seems pretty deliberate. Certainly seems in character with Damian.

 

There's some weird story strand introduced when it puts you in control of Gordon, the one with Joker's infected blood and that five packs were missed, but you don't see the fifth person yet. Maybe that's resolved elsewhere, but since it's set before the timeline of the game, I figured maybe whoever that person is might turn out to be AK.

 

 

Argh, I want to play more... but I also want to play more Witcher 3!

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I've barely made much progress, but from my limited playtime...

 

 

I noticed Arkham Knight refers to Batman as "old man", which could be nothing but seems pretty deliberate. Certainly seems in character with Damian.

 

There's some weird story strand introduced when it puts you in control of Gordon, the one with Joker's infected blood and that five packs were missed, but you don't see the fifth person yet. Maybe that's resolved elsewhere, but since it's set before the timeline of the game, I figured maybe whoever that person is might turn out to be AK.

 

 

Argh, I want to play more... but I also want to play more Witcher 3!

Interesting point about

 

 

the old man line. Doesn't necessarily rule out Jason Todd, though. He would've been a kid during his time as Robin and would probably see Bruce as a father figure.

 

I never really considered Damian because there's been basically no setup for him in the Arkhamverse (at least as far as I'm aware), but Talia was in the last game, I guess. And there's been a few offhand references to her, so who knows.

 

As for the last patient, I was wondering if maybe that wasn't Bats himself? It's been a while since I played through the story but wasn't he also infected by Joker in AC? There's also something else that I think might support this but I'm not sure if you've heard that part yet so I won't say anything.

 

 

Damnit, now I really want to play. :( It's actually decently playable on my rig. Maybe I'll just finish this first playthrough and leave the achievement and completion stuff for later...

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RE the 5th guy:

 

It's  Batman. You spend a fair chunk of the game hallucinating him on rooftops, hanging around people, popping up in fights etc. It's well done. You must have stopped right at the Gordon bit cos it's covered like right there.

 

Isn't that a result of

 

 

the exposure to Scarecrow's toxin, though? I imagine it's probably a combination of both but yeah, I'm with you that the fifth guy is Bats. I'm not sure if it's been confirmed where I am but it seems to be implied that what Robin is working on that Bats insists "this is more important" is the cure for these people. And that's pretty much how Batman would handle that. Have someone work on it but without telling them a damn thing or why it's so urgent.

 

 

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Not played Arkham City? 

 

Joker injects you with his blood as incentive to find a cure. You don't manage it, Joker dies. You start going loopy it seems, protected only by Batmans iron will.

 

 

Batman gets the cure in Arkham City. It's Joker who doesn't because he causes Batman to drop the vial.

 

So, yeah, I knew how Batman got Joker's blood in him, I had just figured he was in the clear and never really considered him the fifth is all.

 

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I'm okay with the batmobile stuff... so far. I've only been playing in short stretches (which I think suits it better) so everything's varied. Though, I think some of the "defend the bomb" stuff gets a little tedious when you're shooting 20+ tanks in a go and I am worried about this stealth stuff mentioned later on.

 

I do like how it's implemented in the story moments though (Surprise! Remote control!), and you feel like a badass just driving it around.

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