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Ok, I think there is enough info to merit some discussion at this point. A new Naughty Dog game with a mature theme is certainly welcome, as far as I'm concerned. The trailer already shows off some decent voice acting and great production value. The zombies though... I've really had enough of zombies. It's not a deal-breaker, but I have to wonder what made them to decide to take one of the most traveled roads in recent years.

Inmate: "What's wrong with The Riddler anyway? Hasn't he got anything better to do than leave green question marks all over Gotham City?" Line of the game.

Well, I'm one of the chumps who had a great time with XIII, so I was already interested when this was announced. The perfect score just makes the changes look even a little more promising. They have given several 40s in the past couple of years that people have taken issue with (as well as some lower scores that had some enraged), but despite that they're a long-lasting and respected enough publication that I'm comfortable taking their increase in score across the two games as a positive sign. If we were talking about a console-dedicated mag I wouldn't even open the full article to read about it, but I still take an early Famitsu score for an upcoming game somewhat seriously. Maybe I'm just an optimist when it comes to this series.

Looks like Famitsu dished out another perfect score this year. My interest is certainly piqued.

Lazarus Handsome bastard, even when he's sick. Aaaand me with him. He's grown there, I'm actually just that enormous.

The amazing thing to me is that she needs to be told that she has to go. The fact that she doesn't understand that shows that even now, after all the apologies and concerned faces that she made, that she has zero grasp of the magnitude of the disgust that that incident created for the school, both from outside and within. Those students don't want to move forward under her direction, they see her as the cause of the problem. Whether or not she expected something like that (I highly doubt she did), it happened on her watch and as a result of her premature and heavy-handed manner of dealing with the protest. If she claims responsibility as she said several times she does, then she will do the most dignified thing possible at this point; walk away. Actually I think that's what you've been waiting for ~.o Personally, I find the Jay-Z one more disturbing, as he was selling t-shirts. Also because I actually dig his music (or used to, it's been a few years). Doesn't indicate anything but greedy individuals, either way. That's just my assumption on the part of Miley, I'd like to think an educated one when it comes to young celebrities. Truth is I don't care enough about her to give her a fair ear. She just doesn't matter.

We are moved to tears by this purchase. Here are my newest: $45 total. Now I just need to get the primary Move controller >.>

Yes! Turns out they did it last night as well as today! Arkham City is en route! Hugs and drinks all around! =D

I'm so glad that someone is finally getting Chapin's library up on youtube. The little bit of exposure that this man gets relative to his songwriting is a fucking crime. I'm sorry, but I'm posting two.

God dammit... I didn't expect Amazon's Black Friday sales to happen before Friday >< All those $29 copies of Arkham City are sold out.... I want to rip flesh with my teeth right now...

Oh no... oh g... Artax!

http://digitallife.t...us-works-of-art Maybe it's my personal views on this particular incident, but I'd call this pretty legitimate art, and well done. If you dig the ones showcased in the article, it's worth checking out the full gallery. I liked several on there a lot. It would seem he's been labeled Casually Pepper Spray Everything Cop. The internet.

I don't dispute your statement about the ugly side of humanity coming out when people are in angry mobs. I'm not really disputing anything you've stated, I actually agree with most of it. I hope it doesn't seem like I'm trying to put you in a category of beliefs or anything like that either. The reason I'm still bringing this situation up though, is that it's the one on the table, and the one (timing indicates anyway,) that provoked you to talk about your disgust when people knee-jerk themselves into a frenzy. At this point I do get that you aren't talking about this particular protest, but wanted to know what you think about this particular case. I also sensing that you feel as though there is a push to hate the cops in this thread, and since I'm the one who posted a pic with an email and phone number, I feel at least partially responsible for that. I should make it clear now, that one of the things that disgusted me the most about these protests when they began was (on the internet side of their representation) the "fuck the police" mentality that people were very quick to promote along with any picture they could find that might possibly resemble police brutality. I'm fully aware of the nature of protests, expected to see some scuffling & excited behavior and didn't have an especial problem with it. Some of the more recent cases though have made me seriously question the use of law enforcement against the protesters. Not the officers themselves, but they way they are deployed. My posting that pic wasn't in case anyone wanted to harass that man, but to speak their honest mind to him should they choose to. I didn't share it on Facebook (where I found it), but I did it here because I don't feel like this place is the pack of wolves most of the places on the internet I visit (including FB) are. Immediately after posting though, I realized how provocative it might come off, and so I'll take responsibility for setting that tone here. Anyway, not trying to force any answers out of you, but I was asking your stance on this particular case. You more or less gave it in the last post.

People will do that. Are we (in this thread) doing that now though? You're being cautious and trying not to jump to conclusions prematurely, which I appreciate, but what conclusions have you come to about this particular event, with an unbiased eye?

Let me clarify. I understand that there are two sides to every story. This incident at UC is hardly one to accuse people of being prematurely and illegitimately upset about though. It wasn't just aggression, it was an outright show of force. Those students could've been cuffed and led away, which is what still had to be done after the systematic point-blank sprayingof each one anyway. Instead a point was proved. The one proved by the man with the cans is more symbolic. The presence of officers in riot gear in the first place the more significant. When investigations are complete the details of who deserves the brunt of the blame for the UC Davis incident will surface, but this is the latest and most extreme in a pattern of overboard actions to silence this protest in a fashion that this country openly condemns when it takes place in other countries.

Do you think people shouldn't be pissed?

+1 on this business with the kids. What the hell already. That's my contribution to the discussion...

I don't go on Facebook often, but when I went on to send someone a message early yesterday I saw similar sentiments being expressed. I was completely revolted, as well as ashamed for having links with these people, however loosely we might be associated. I think some people are so detached from these protest in every way imaginable that they treat it like pure entertainment, and take on the role of the heckler. I'm not innocent when it comes to things like that, but this isn't the same thing as bullshitting over some reality show personality. Despite being friendly with many of them, I've taken it upon myself to speak to them like the children they're behaving themselves as. If there were a physical equivalent to what I'm doing, I'd liken it to shoving someone's own shit down their throat so forcefully that it takes a dozen teeth with it. I don't want it to seem like I'm trying to convert people to pro-occupy, but just trying to pull their consciousness out of the fucking gutter for a moment. If they're offended then I guess it's mutual, and we just don't need to be cool anymore. On a side note: I was completely disgusted by this photo, but when I read up and looked at the other photos and video I teared up a bit. I hope this officer is ashamed already, but just in case he isn't, I'm going to do my part in putting a human perspective on the actions of him and his colleagues. Perhaps a letter from Raymond Lewis could teach this guy what it is to be a man.

This is something I love. Thousands of people are gathered in protest, one of them cops a squat on a car, and that's all people can talk about. This is the nature of a large gathering, people will act like assholes. The amount of violence was actually minimal considering this is a gathering of discontents. Why aren't people of this point of view treating the cops the same way, and talking about how the cops are really making things worse for themselves by beating up on unarmed men in packs and tear-gassing the elderly? Or why the mayor is making things worse by interfering with peoples' right to protest? Can we base the assumption that the US government is trying to silence its citizens on his actions? Here, let's try something. Talk to me about baseball and its fans. Or about the city of Boston. See, the truth is the behavior of the protesters has been mostly exemplary, especially when one considers the nature of what is taking place and the numbers it has drawn. If people are getting the impression that the pack down there is one of wolves, I'd pay attention to what news outlets choose to show you during all this. When thousands are peacefully protesting and all the news can talk about is a guy crapping on a car, or how a cop got his hand cut and had to be rushed to the hospital, it's safe to say that someone is working hard to demean this movement. When I do some simple maths in my head, I know that most of those people conducted themselves well. While footage from the street shows some pretty rough play from the NYPD, the people on the ground on the Ustream feed yesterday had offered accounts of officers visibly crying, in one case pleading with the protesters to back off before the riot police arrived. Call me naive, but I'm more inclined to believe that police are mostly human beings that don't like having to beat citizens than I am to believe that everyone who is protesting down there is an animal. I'm not going to offer personal views on the tea party, as I can almost guarantee that this topic will be derailed with talk about them.

Is it weird that whenever I search a corpse and see a Nord Sword I think of this guy?

They have, but it's more indicative http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/18/poll-49-of-occupy-wall-street I'm sure if you ask the 51% of that poll who did not feel the bailouts were necessary, many of them would also say that bailouts are the tiniest tip of the iceberg in the list of issues the protesters have. I'd imagine much of their anger over it is mainly issue of prioritization too, but that's just a guess. I honestly appreciate your contribution to this thread. Regardless of what the popular opinion on something like this in any given circle may be, I feel that these discussions are the best immediate result of the protest, but no discussion is worth the time it takes to have unless ideas are being exchanged and challenged. As much bullshit as people might like to talk about being filtered through mainstream media coverage, bullshit is coming from the protesters too, and there needs to be some balance in the way people take this all in. That being said though, I feel like you're still not giving the assembly down there enough credit. The representation of the protest on the street is indescribably diverse in terms of age, occupation, ethnicity, and income bracket. I imagine the representation outside of it is just as diverse. There is a protest going on at my college right now, that will march to the city later today. It's not just a student protest though. The faculty are participants as well, and helped organize it. On a side note, it amuses me to think that when I hang out with certain friends and have this discussion in the near-future, I will once again be taking the side opposed to the protest. Oh well, I think it's healthy.