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Every time I buy a 3rd party controller it ends in arguments of people who don't want to use it. "Oh I died because I had this crappy controller". I mostly just get official ones now because then everyone is equal. Also, Controllers cost $55 because it compensates for the lack of profit on the console itself. Accessories are where the margin is on all electronics usually.

I can't speak to Tyler Perry because I haven't seen any of his work. What values does he try to sell? Of the other movies you're talking about the only one I've seen is Fireproof (the in-laws made us watch it). It grossed about 33 million across only 900 theaters. Not exactly considered a wide release. Yes there's christian media out there but it's made by small communities on extremely limited budgets (just watch the movies if you don't believe me). It's not exactly any competition with major hollywood movies and they never get any sort of critical recognition (not that they necessarily deserve it). @6264: I'd love to dig into some of those things, I'm at work now though so probably going to have to respond to all of it later.

I had a rusty RPG misfire on me, the shell fell to the ground in front of me spinning around and lighting the grass on fire before exploding. I went running as fast as I could for my life. It was one of the most terrifying and awesome game moments ever. That's one of the reasons I loved Far Cry 2.

Yeah, I'm really confused by the motivation of the doctors. I wonder if they are worried they are going to be held responsible for the poor medical decisions the parents make. I wonder if they're worried about legal implications.

All is forgiven.

Well, to be fair, Nature shows push the evolution agenda. They aren't really pushing atheism directly.

I can see that liberal bias has been an unpleasant thing for you. I know that it must be frustrating to be confronted with an opinion that you find repugnant in your everyday life. That said, unless you have a very very different media experience than me, liberal bias tends to be pretty understated- they shift the tone of their story, say, but they don't out and out make pro-lifers monsters, or say that anyone opposed to government run insurance is evil. Conservative bias CAN be understated, of course, but very often it's anything but. Fox News straight up lies in order to make liberals look bad, voices like Rush Limbaugh spit venom about left-leaning individuals, the right just seems so much more hateful than the left. Not saying the left is perfect, obviously we're not, but we aren't usually vicious. Well, I'm not going to jump on and defend Fox or Rush. I will say I've heard Liberal talk radio shows which call anyone who liked George W. Bush homophobes. If the right seems more hateful than the left then perhaps a matter of perception. Atheists get tons of airtime. All you ever have to do is watch National Geographic, Planet Earth, pretty much any nature show. In regards to freedom of religion. I'd say that it guarantees we can worship whoever we want. Christians don't want to be kicked out of school for praying. Freedom of religion is not freedom from religion and I completely agree that we should be able to have any belief we want (or lack of belief) and it's very hard to give one person their beliefs without infringing upon another's. It's a difficult question but it's not as simple as kicking God out of school and Government all together because doing so violates other people's freedom of religion. It's a complicated subject.

I don't know which "messed up" parts of the Bible you're referring to but I take the Bible as a whole. Of course the Bible uses allegory in many places throughout but it's also usually clear where it's not being literal. In response to the rest of your text: I don't get much religion imposed on me from any religion not just Christians so whether or not other people think I'm a christian is moot. In regards to having a good reason to impose your beliefs on others. Well, I don't think evangelical christians want to force anyone to do what they want them to do. They do want other people to believe what they believe but it's out of concern for that person's well being. There's nothing to be gained for the christian sharing in terms of rewards from God or anything like that. In response to christian or conservative media, you kind of have to seek those things out. I'd love to know which contemporary sitcoms/movies/drama's you'd consider to be conservative. I can think of about two. LOTR and Narnia. Those are pretty well documented to be written by Christians though and they're pretty old. Try watching a single episode of Grey's Anatomy or Modern Family and tell me their not pushing a liberal agenda hard. One time I was watching an episode of the children's cartoon "Recess". The children discovered "King Morty's Book of Rules". It was a very boring episode and not funny at all and I couldn't figure out what was going on. Basically King Morty had been king of the playground in WWII and had made a lot of rules about WWII such as not using rubber balls because they were needed for the war effort. The kids eventually hated the rules and finally the hero gets up and says "King Morty's rules were great for those people way back when but why should we follow a bunch of dumb rules written in a book long ago that no longer make any sense?". Anywho, I suppose you could say that I might have been reading too much into it but the only time I've ever really heard that same argument is when people are attacking the Bible. There are subversive messages in all our media they just usually go unnocited to people unless they disagree with them. Perhaps that's why atheists feel that christians are ramming their religion down other peoples throats but I'm just trying to get home the point that there is a very strong push from the liberal atheist world in all forms of media that I feel is even stronger than the evangelical Christian minority pushing back.

Health care is a simple disconnect between supply and demand. Demand is constant and supply is completely limited. I have two options, the discounted expensive insurance through work or the really expensive independant insurance. If you were to eliminate businesses offering insurance to their employees and simply paid people money and let them buy insurance then you'd be able to control where the money goes and create more competition. There is limited competition in the market place right now as companies can bargain with providers but the actual care being provided is being provided at will en masse to those insured who are only worried about their measly copayments. The disconnect between supply and demand may be simple but the solution is slightly complicated by the ideals of humanity and human life. It's simple to say that if some poor sucker has opted not to buy health insurance then he should be left to die in the street. In pracitce it's not really good for society to have people dying in the street. That's where you have the rules of providing stabilizing medical care to anyone regardless of ability to pay begin. The problem with that is they cut you lose as soon as your stable and that person may be back next week adn over and over again. Now you get to the issue of do you make everyone buy insurance because that way everyone is splitting the cost. Well now you're back into a plan where there is no limitation on the demand and so everyone gets every possible procedure and medical test done they can (also because doctors are worried about being sued) without any attention to the actual cost involved. So doctors charge whatever they want and do whatever tests they want and patients okay the tests and procedures because they're aren't footing the bill the insurance companies are. Medical costs continue to rise, health insurance premiums rise as a result and the cycle goes on forever. The only possible way to break the cycle is to connect consumers to the real costs of health care and make them responsible for their own care. Let them choose providers based on costs and keep the money that they save. Consumer Driven High Deductible health plans are a good start in this direction. The make patients carry a plan with a deducitble of at least $2,400 and they must pay all costs out of pocket until the deducitlbe is reached. It must also be accompanied by a savings account (tax protected) from which consumers can pay their expenses. They can also keep this money if they do not spend it. I believe Obamacare does away with these tax provisions though. There is a line to draw between letting people die in the street and providing health care to everyone. I think if you can eliminate the laws limiting insurance companies selling across state lines that would create more competition. Tort reform would limit doctor liability and help doctors to not order useless tests for legal purposes. Eliminating tax breaks for corporations and passing them to individuals would allow people to chose their own medical coverage creating more competition. There are many many ways we can reduce the cost of medical care. Socializing medicine only eliminates the laws of supply and demand and creates a welfare state in which demand skyrockets and costs go up and quality goes down.

Oh and back to the topic of people cramming their belifs down throats. I got to thinking about it more. I'll gladly confess that I'm not as open to the people around my about my faith as maybe I feel I ought to be. That being said I don't really ever get preached to or yelled at by christians who think I'm not a christian. I don't even really get witnessed to by muslims or even my mormon friends. I have had many very civil discussions with people of all different faiths. That being said the only time I'm ever really force fed doctrine seems to be by liberal media, movies, television and especially every nature show ever. College was practically a joke of libearal drivel and that was in Texas. I even at one point had a professor telling us that America dropped 2 bombs on Japan because we're an evil imperialist nation who only wanted to dominate poor Japan. I politely raised my hand and said "We dropped another bomb because they refused to surrender and were arming their women and children to fight to the death against us and by dropping the bomb we saved millions of lives on both sides by avoiding an inevitable invasion." He responded by saying that was beside the point. There's plenty of people in my live who've tried to force me thier beliefs though positions of power but it usually isn't christians.

Yes I'm a biblical literalist. I'm busted, I confess. Actually though, it's funny, a lot of people don't generally attack the historicity of the book itself as it's the most well documented historical book of all time. Most people only generally attack the validity of the book and they didn't even bother to do that until hundreds of years after it's completion. Anywho, all that aside, you guys owe it to yourself to go actually read some documentation on the opposing views of evolution. I'm not saying it'll change your mind but you do seem to be arguing that there is no contrary position, or at least not one based on science. I am here to tell you that is not true. Also a confession, I need to do more reading on the science of it because I'm no expert on it.

Well, if you want evidence or proof I've got a list of great books you could read. Darwin's Black Box (Behe) Intelligent Design (Dembski) The Soul of Science (Percy) Darwin on Trial (Johnson) Life is a Miracle (Berry) A History of Nearly Everything (Bryson) Redeeming Science (Poythress) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr_model So we had a lot of different models for the atom and we've learned a lot about it and the model has changed and grown as we've tested it and responded to it. That's science. Evolution doesn't work like that. We can't test and respond to it in the same way and it can't be isolated and observed in the same way so you can't present it as a scientific fact the same way.

Yeah, it's easy to stand up to peer review when there's no way to disprove something like evolution.

Also, in the internet age I'm sure we could throw pages and pages of "facts" back at each other all day long. Your point is not more factual than mine is though just because you believe it more.

You're basically saying that because you have some evidence then it's a fact. It doesn't work like that. You interpret the evidence as you want it but it's still only evidence. You don't have a fact that evolution occurs or takes place. Also, it's become quite amusing to me but if you listen to a lot of nature programming the way people describe evolution it's as if the process itself is intelligent. They talk about all the amazing things evolution does and produces. They discuss evolution as if it is intelligent and bringing forth life. How is that not a religious doctrine?

We don't even have to be talk about evolution if you want to talk about ramming your beliefs down other people's throats. Try watching some prime time television and pretend your a christian and tell me you don't feel insulted every 5 minutes. There may be people cramming their views down other people's throats but in my personal experience it's the liberal views I'm constantly being forced to choke on. Oh, and I'm told their facts too while they're at it. Edit: Careful Johnny or you'll run out of negs for the day again.

Wait wut? Dude do you or any of your family take the yearly flu-vaccines? You do know what you just said right? Not like a typo or something? I shall refer you to one of my favourite quotes from Dara O'Brien: http://www.youtube.c...3R6vjIoE#t=143s You guys are pretty much proof of the indoctrination if you believe that evolution is a proven fact. Who is believing what they're told now? @6264: I'm not saying we should be preaching creationism in school. I'm saying we present things as facts that are anything but as evidenced in this here thread.

So what exactly are you advocating? Violence?

Evolution is anything but a fact. Really, if anyone is indoctrinating the youth these days it's the liberal bias in classrooms and certainly in universities. All the while talking about tolerance and fairness.

No, what is hypocritical is how athiests and darwinists post things like that and then champion teaching evolution in schools.

Except that the kids who did the harassing didn't reap what they sewed. They picked on kids who then committed suicide... Not really sure what you're on about.

Shouldn't the proper response be to end harassment? you want to fight harassment with more harassment?

who cares? It was awesome. Why do developers drop their coolest features instead of expanding them? See Red Faction 2.