CorgiShinobi

I feel like, as far as my experience has gone, I usually pick one handheld to dive into first. My first, and only, PSP was the 2000 series (the one right after the original), whereas I got the original DS, and after that I saved up for a DS Lite.

Alright, how about downloading Steam is easy, but configuring the options of the service is not as easy because you've got to know what any of them means, or something? You still got what the definition I used meant. Have sweet dreams, and I hope it's not hard for you to get some rest so that way it will be easier to wake up tomorrow morning and not have a difficult morning and INSERT ITALICIZED WORD HERE.

Okay, right there. He didn't find it hard because it isn't hard, but it kinda is hard. After talking about having to locate the update online and use a USB drive, and so forth, I'm sorry if the impression I got was that the process was "hard." You can make something simpler, or easier to use, but it doesn't make the task/technology/object actually simple. You can simplify the rules of soccer, but it doesn't make the sport easier. You can download a game through Steam easily, but the configuration of a PC game may not be as simple. Simplified

I like to call it the "And people think PC gaming is a bother" square It's called the "I don't have the recommended space that game keeps telling me to have" square.

See, I've said it before numerous times, but... My only point has been about the patching system and my stance on the terminology of "plug-n-play" or what have you. I have never tried to convince the masses that PC gaming is really hard. If I can do it (I've stated I'm not a genius, right?) than it's not rocket science. I have said Steam isn't perfect, and it has given me problems, but I believe I used it in my argument to balance out Rocky's bad experiences with my bad experiences. Really, are you perhaps reading too much into my defense of patching on consoles as a subtle jab at PC gaming? I know there's a lot of bull when thrown around online, etc and etc. Still, I believe I can stand up for a console as well as a PC in this thread. Perhaps all this time we've been fighting two separate battles, eh? Of course, I think consoles have "advanced" and PCs have "simplified" or "streamlined" rather than one is "hard" and the other is "simple." That's all dependent on the individual. Rocky found it harder than I did to update on the PS3, but I've also had issues with Steam whereas he has had, I guess, a very joyful experience.

I find it annoying when Team Fortress 2 always has to validate when I boot up Steam. I always get the "Finished downloading" notifications. I don't know why it does that, and I've looked into it and I've found "frozen updates" and other topics. I'm guessing that's normal? As for Online Pass, DLC from stores, and anything code related; well, I've found that there are instructions on the same piece of paper. The only confusing code I've ever received was the Portal 2 bonus codes which required you to push Triangle at the co-op menu to enter the code in-game. Everything else has been "Go to PSN Store, blah blah." Also, if you want to use Netflix on consoles, you use the PC as well to setup the connection. Oh boy, using two devices for one service! It's not like the instructions on the television are vague. And see, anyone who has a PC, or Mac, or smartphone, or any frickin' device with Wi-Fi should be able to handle consoles too in regards to Wi-Fi. It's not like Wi-Fi alters itself into a separate technology on consoles. Yes, I think it would be common sense that parents purchase the devices, but if it's strictly for the kid, that kid will spend the most time with it and learn about it the most. Does every parent that buy a cellphone or handheld gaming device know how it works? No, but I'm sure the kid who has sunk days into it can tell you how to turn it on, select a game, run an application, and knows all sorts of shortcuts. Like I said, time is a large factor. If people take time to read, the information is there and it's not complex. The Wii has "calibration" in its manual. I should know, I read that thing Day One.

I have to make sure I never fully lower the Move controller when I'm playing Sports Champions. I'm just a few inches shy of length to properly put myself in the calibration square, or whatever that thing is called.

First off: No, I'm not saying PC gaming is bothersome. I'm arguing how one could conceive patching as, well, Rocky says it's "not simple," so what am I suppose to get from that? Isn't the opposite of simple "complex?" If it isn't simple, and it isn't complex, what is it? Luke warm? I was comparing plastic with plastic, and I'm aware of CD-ROMs and etc. Believe it or not, I did play PC games before I had an Nintendo 64. Maybe they weren't quality titles, but I was a kid after all. Are console gamers required to pre-order games to redeem DLC codes? Do they need to use Gamefly? Do they need to use Netflix on a console? Are console gamers the only ones who use Wi-Fi? Don't PC gamers use Wi-Fi too? Doesn't Nintendo hold everyone's hand enough where they can have the knowledge to calibrate a Wiimote. Yes, hindsight wise it is impressive to see how far consoles have become technologically, but we're also how old ourselves in 2011? I can safely say a 12 year-old would know more about current technology than when I was a 12 year-old. Don't underestimate a younger generation's ability to perceive and operate all this new technology. While I had to learn about dial-up and RF switches, kids now a days have Wi-Fi or 3G/4G with 3D technology via HDMI cables. I'll say it clearly, again, I don't have anything against PC gaming and I'm not saying it's "so bothersome, I don't get it, oh help me, is it F5 that quick saves, what's quick load?!" Yet, I can't be the advocate for consoles when I find something ludicrous as stating the seemingly "it's not simple, but it's not complex" nature of a console patch? EDIT: Maybe I entered the foray at the wrong time, but I just found the idea that you can't "pop-in and play" with consoles inaccurate. Even when PSN was down I could still play games, sans online functionality. There has never been a difficult moment (my experience, that is), and I'm not a genius myself. And I hate to bring in Kotaku, but remember when Crecente's kid tricked him and his wife to play Call of Duty, even with all the parental restrictions. Kids are smart, and I think once you get use to something, it's a breeze. Time is the factor, but we all learn at different paces.

EDIT: In response to RockyRan, not Dean. Bad luck? LittleBigPlanet did not take that long for me, at all. I would have remembered the longest game update on the PS3 if it happened for me. See, for me, it has always been "pop-in and play." There's an update, but it's never a pain. I've never had connection issues with patches, and the only times downloads will take an incredibly long time to, you know, download is when I'm getting something from the PSN Store, not patches. Want to know what connection issues I have had? With Steam. It has only happened twice and so I'm not angry about it, but it was bothersome. I couldn't play Half-Life 2 because my Steam account couldn't login. I wasn't sure if it was my Internet connection, Steam updating, or there was maintenance. Heck, I didn't think I would need to be logged in to play any of my games from Steam. I had a fellow gamer, who does play a lot on PC, help and she wasn't sure what the hell was wrong. Eventually I got through, but something definitely was wrong for a while. This is my experience, and that is why I'm baffled by the idea that downloading a patch is "complex." That something that finds an update, for itself, downloads, and installs by itself makes for a not simple procedure. Maybe if we were grandmas who paid Best Buy to "install new firmware" I would agree, but that's not the case. FYI, I'm not trying to imply Steam is inferior, but we can't act like there are not issues with the service. Maybe I'm a "noob" when it comes to Steam, but maybe that's because it's "too complex" for me or something. I dunno, I don't think too good, sir.

The only downside is that I have to be in the camera's range. For a living, hardly a problem. In a bedroom, I don't have as much freedom. Of course, this is regarding Move games where I have to actually move my arms and body.

I'll answer that question with another: How often were games perfect in the older consoles though? There were problems, but the result usually was, "this game is crap" instead of "what can be fixed." Pretty much black and white, and if a game had glitches, bugs, and all manner of errors, it was always going to be a crap game. I'm finding it hard to believe that somehow playing games on consoles are too complex. Yes, they've advanced and I don't simply put in a plastic cartridge now. However, can't the same be said for PCs? That it has evolved beyond simply putting a couple of floppy disks into a drive? At the same time, are people really scratch their heads and thinking, "A menu has popped up; WHAT DA HELL DO I DO?" I'm going to verify, just for safety, that I'm not anti-PC or some load. I have a Steam account, even if no one has added me yet (aside from P4, that gentleman). Still, if kids still within their first decade are jumping on these consoles, there can't be some almighty barrier of complexity. Heck, I know there was just talk about cable connections to televisions and consoles, but matching holes and color seems more simple than it was connecting this punk to the family's 80's television.

It not that bad. However, with the debut of Tron: Legacy, people/critics who had/have a minimal amount of computer knowledge would go off about how "cyberspace" is too unrealistic. I guess Science Fiction has to be deeply engrained to our reality, or something.

Wait, wait, wait... It's difficult to: 1) Insert disc 2) Push a button to accept update 3) Sit for three minutes as the console downloads and installs the update 4) Play the game That's all I did when inFAMOUS 2 had "Update 1.01" upon insertion. It was truly difficult on my end. Then again, who am I to judge when I know there are people who can't run a System Update, even when the console itself tells them to update and where to update. Way to miss the point. My point is that it's no longer about "just pop in the disc and play" that a lot of PC naysayers like to say. The point is that gaming consoles are getting increasingly more complex to the point where you have to wait several minutes (and in some cases upwards of an hour) to boot up the game you just bought, not to mention whatever happens when the console isn't connecting online for some dumb reason (which has happened more often than I would like it to) or you get an RROD. Like I said, the days of "pop game in, play" are over for consoles. I don't find consoles to be any less of a hassle than the PC. Oh please, a game getting a patch is hardly "complex." You sit there and the game fixes itself. If your console isn't online, you don't receive the patch and you play. However, you run the chance of playing a buggy/terrible version of the game. Yeah, we're past "pop-in and pray" that version 1.0 you purchased works out of the box. Now we're at a better state where things can be fixed. No, now we're at "pop-in, (possible patch), and play." I don't have to do anything else besides wait a few minutes. And an hour? What cases are these? Never have I had to wait even half an hour for a patch to download and install.

Quorra explains that earlier in the movie, though I can understand viewers being mesmerized by her looks instead of actually listening. B)

Wait, wait, wait... It's difficult to: 1) Insert disc 2) Push a button to accept update 3) Sit for three minutes as the console downloads and installs the update 4) Play the game That's all I did when inFAMOUS 2 had "Update 1.01" upon insertion. It was truly difficult on my end. Then again, who am I to judge when I know there are people who can't run a System Update, even when the console itself tells them to update and where to update.

Blargh! That's just... I mean, I guess that's good for anyone who didn't want to buy more controllers, but the idea that we'll still be goofing around with our Wiimotes is both odd and disappointing. I swear, the Wii U sounds like a duck, walks like a duck, but in reality is a two-legged dog with it's vocal cords snipped.

Except Sony had sixaxis not all that great, but still and before that they had the eye toy. The Sixaxis always seemed more like previous tilt-oriented control. After all, you were on an "axis." If we considered that, tilt goes even further back. Eye Toy never got proper support, and now the PS Eye seems to merely exist to make Move operate. Not a bad cause, but it has shifted to another form of control.

I think I'll just flat out say the spoiler, because really, my impression from the responses I've been getting are off. Even then, that's only part of it. My advice, don't go researching anything inFAMOUS because that's how I was spoiled. Even if you think it's something harmless, it might have some affect on the sequel.

We're talking about X-Men: First Class. Read Duke's comment, he states it clearly. I know, I know. Just joking with, that is to say, if you were to just say "X-Men," you could be implying "Fantastic" to "My vomit entertains me more."

Alright, I'll put this here because I guess I'm giving out a "spoiler" even if I'm being incredibly vague. All I can/will say is that Sucker Punch didn't do an incredible job at being vague with the Beast. Once you see it, you'll know.

Depending on which X-Men we talk of, either party could be the retard. Except when discussing The Dark Knight. It would be like dividing by zero because even if you prove that The Dark Knight is inferior, the universe will cease to exist.