deanb

This is smexy (Asylum of the Daleks) Also companions that...left. http://io9.com/5946820/10-most-depressing-departures-of-doctor-whos-companions

https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/promotion_celebrate_25_billion These are daily btw (we're on day three). Mass Effect Infiltrator any good?

I'm only level 12 (And most of my weapons are level 8)

Well there's a reason I rarely interact with FDS. Saying the same thing over n over again is entirely up to you. Repeating things doesn't always make it any more right or correct. I understand how it came to be, you don't need to repeat it over n over and then get frustrated at others that you feel the need to repeat it over n over. No one else is forcing you to do that There's nothing much "pro-Android" going on, in my original post the examples I gave where the web, Windows and then Android. I could maybe have snagged Housemate No.2 iPad/Air to check too if you wanted a through infographic but it was just a small thing not a research paper. I have actually pointed out a few times it'd need to be something supported via W3C if it was to wholly work via Twitter, but that never really got much further discussion. I also pointed out that the security flaw you'd posted about required close range of inches, which at that point pretty much all electronics are "vulnerable". That's why routers come with buttons, it assumes if you're physically close enough to push the button then you're close enough to be "secure" and not be someone hacking in from afar. And that point still stands, the "vulnerability" required close contact, you'd have to know who or what it is you're syncing with. Also look whos bringing in Android to the Apple thread. Japan uses Emoticons. What world you in? And their "Emoji" isn't "more capable" because it's only working on iOS/OSX. There's more to it sure, but it's no more "capable" if it means 90% of users of SMS/web can't see them. To a degree it makes it less capable because if people can't see it then half the message is lost. The funny thing with the new lighting connector and the comparison with USB is that while on one end it's lighting, on the other end its still: And Micro-USB is a standard, one that Apple has technically agreed to, even if their translation of what they're agreeing to doesn't match anyone else. And USB also does video output too if you want it too. So you can have a connector that's USB on one end and micro-USB on the other, or one that's USB on one end and Lighting on the other..connector to an adaptor because there's currently bot all that support Lightning. A USB cable is a USB cable, and can be used on numerous devices, a lightning cable can only be used on iPods. If we're wanting to compare a reduce in e-waste, HTC phones won't come with a charger, because everyone has a charger that connects to the phone. While the iPhone 5 will pretty much require the addition of one or more adaptors. It's not really slander to say that, the Lightning connector is not used on any other devices, in order to use it with products already available in circulation it requires an adaptor. In order to comply with the EU e-waste directive it requires an adaptor therefore negating the purpose of the e-waste bill. Its aim was to stop the need for stuff like this: I don't get what you're saying "exactly" to in your post? An "open and standardized proprietary player" is still an oxymoron. You can't be "open" and "proprietary" at the same time. ODT is an open-standard. .doc isn't. one is open, one is proprietary, can't have a proprietary open standard. Apple develop the software that the emoji is running on, I would hope they knew what people could and could not get access to and in which countries. I would hope somewhere in their documentation it says "Emoji is accessible in all international versions of iOS, not just Japan on Softbank carrier." If not, then what else is in iOS that Apple didn't mean to leave in? IT's in part of the OS that wasn't meant to be there, one would assume that given it uses an exploiting the SDK, rather than a documented API in the SDK, that it's something they were not meant to be able to do. Not really the same issue at all, the Japanese and Korean characters aren't using the private space and display on a wide variety of devices and platforms. I can grab you some screenshots if you want? And yeah video games are always fun to play. I could say something about iOS and video games, but I think Elevens head would explode.

I would swear I've seen news of a Samsung Galaxy phone with a qwerty on it. Doubt it'll be SIII power like hte Note 2, but close enough. Don't the Moto Droids do QWERTY slide out?

They've a habit of asking too many permissions than would be required. Combined with being Chinese which don't have the best reputation for data privacy. @Eleven: Fine, whatever. I'm generally always up for ending a discussion when it devolves to ad homiem attacks anyway.

Coordinating Co-op isn't so easy. Also it carries on cutting my steam connection a lot of late. I'm mainly doing it SP to get a feel of it. Of the folks I've got lined up for co-op I've a person currently in EG Expo (not a PXOD person), a uni student, and americans.

Taking the piss out the black bars makes me an Apple Hater? Bit of a low bar for entry isn't there?I and many millions around the world (including many news establishments) have taken the piss out of the Apple Maps, does that mean they're all now "Apple haters"? I certainly don't love Apple products as much as others can, and that's mainly because they do jack shit for me. There's very little that Apple sell that has an appeal for my needs. My main "hate" comes when Apples actions interfere with everything else. OSX has an app store, I don't have much of an opinion on it, it's OSX only and I don't have OSX. FCP X is said to be a bit shit, I don't have much an opinion either (anymore), I don't use OSX and FCP is only on OSX. But Emoji? Group Messaging? Patents for common touchscreen interactions? Well that's when it enters into my realm of stuff. And then I have an opinion. I've most of the day free, I'll rustle up something for some balance shall I? And no I don't hate the emoji thing at all. It is an annoyance that shouldn't exist. And pointing out that you can get third party apps that support an implementation of Emoji (and not necessarily the same one as iOS uses with SoftBank) didn't really settle the matter. Especially when the main one is GoSMS and I'm hugely weary of putting GoAnything on my phone no matter how neat they may look. This is the native "Emoji" of JellyBean, and as you'll notice most of them are all emoticons that already exist within Android anyway. The rest are shown are a handful of emoji, and everything else is just words converted to relevant Unicode, eg "up" = "↑". It's also not enabled by default which would imply it's not finished yet. So most of iOS Emoji still won't work (Fuchikoma posted was just page one of the iOS emoticons and that far exceeds the 6 rows shown above). Also "nitpicking on a small thing" is exactly the definition of "nitpicking". I know it's nitpicking, but it's l clearly a nit that really pissed some of you off. Despite those that got a bit too wound up being the ones within the iOS ecosystem (and one with just one friend out of it), so you're largely unaffected by it all.

We have both on packaging where appropriate. The "Sell by" is a "after this point it'll be beyond its best/freshest, but it's still edible and won't kill the customer".

For most I'd say never (especially the phrases). Maybe if "Expiration date" was to change to "sell by date" on official packaging laws? But until then they'll be as British as "ball park figure" is American. Shared words, different usage and meaning. I'm surprised at ginger being a britishism, and I'd have thought metrosexual was American in origin(though it doesn't feel like an Americanism, more in that it's its own word with shared meaning across the pond) btw if you guys didn't use "Ginger" for gingers until recently, what did you normally call them? Coppers? I learnt "Gingers have no souls" from US sites.

Their trophy collection.

Tiny quotes is like a few words, and if you're wanting to annotate peoples posts maybe do it after the quotation? When I edit my posts it doesn't add "edited by dean at 14:27" like all you others unless I manually add that in. I'm not going to have people quoting me, adding bits in then giving the impressions I've since edited out my eyes rolling at you or something. Which is what I was getting at. There's nothing that says iOS, as a closed source platform, cannot be used with open standards. I'm pretty sure people want specific subsets of apps and the ability to run whatever they want on their phone, but Apple frequently puts out updates to stop that, so I don't see why Emoji could not have been kept carrier specific. If Apple notived there was a want for little pictures to annotate texts and tweets and such then maybe they could have gone, "Hmm, if we enable the current carrier specific Japanese thing, it won't work with any other phones in the world but iPhones. Maybe we could have a word with other phone and OS makers and suggest bringing about some kind of universal standard to enable and then everyone can have access to them and it won't look silly if they're on a non-iOS platform?". But they didn't until very recently. And I'd wager given that they've gone years with this Softbank thing and many other ways Apple run things that they were the ones answering the phone call on that topic, not making the call. Wait, if the "kiss-mark" isn't an X, then what is it? Stretching for hyperbole isn't really gonna do much. I'm not saying they're assassinating politicians or molesting kids, I am ,as Thursday has rightly said, just pointing out an issue where Apple have decided to implement something non-standard that has repercussions for everyone else not in the iOS/OSX ecosystem. If it was limited to an entirely iOS-to-iOS messaging platform (is that iMessage? whatever the BBM equivalent is), then it wouldn't matter. But Apple implemented it in a fashion that iOS users can use non-standard characters sent across standardised open, multi-platform messaging protocols. I'm trying to find another example as an analogy, but I'm staring at my phone and my first app drawer is Twicca, Reddit is Fun, Hotmail, Gmail, Facebook, G+, GTalk, Wordpress, BitTorrent, and Feedly. Even my "S Memo" app, exclusive to my phone (atm) still supports JPG, PDF and Evernote for interoperability. It's just a concept that makes sense these days. Also your Korean/Japanese characters doing a table-flip posted perfectly fne btw. Hooray for universally accepted unicode!

I woke up to 17 missed calls this morning, 16 of them from my housemate. She'd gone off to her bf's to the night. Other housemate then locked the door...and put the chain on the latch. (apparently has been doing this every night since she moved in). Housemate 1 then arrives back at 7 in the morning and finds she can't get in All in all was locked out for 2 hours until housemate 2's alarm went off (cos she was told to expect HM 1 to be back at 10am) I think I might have to get Tasker so my phone sound can be turned on at a reasonable time in the morning.

Too many times. (Also the times when I get hit by the electric barrels, they hurt)/.

I'll let folks do a "spot the difference". You use "proprietary" differently to how I (and I reckon many others) would. MS Office, iOS, Opera are all closed source. Linux, Libre Office and Firefox are all open source. ODT is an open standard, while .doc is proprietary. There is also nothing inherent in a closed or open source system stopping it from using an open or proprietary standard. Also PowerPC is no more closed nor open than X86, both require a license to use. Apple make the software that emoji runs on top of. Of course they knew if it was going to be used outside of its original carrier. That or Apple had been okaying apps onto their store that had access to parts of the system they weren't meant to. Which is definitely the worse of the two options. Nothing wrong with adding in more emoticons. It's a 52 key keyboard after all, and that's not taking into account the shift/alt keys. Also how often do you require the ability to post a vein bulge or bowing construction worker? Also I'm pretty sure a kiss is X. That's probably the simplest emoticon/emoji of all, predating both by centuries.

It's kinda rude to add in bits to quotes of other people btw. Yeah you rather confused the matter with your talk of constraints on standards being "lowest common denominator" n such. Doesn't exactly give the impression you consider them to be better. Being an "open and standardized proprietary player" is a bit of an oxymoron. And back in the old days they didn't develop phones nor web powered devices. Building monitors that only work with your desktops is pretty fine, it's a completely closed ecosystem. But SMS, the web, Twitter, etc isn't. As for Emoji I'm aware Apple didn't build it, their carrier did. But it was Apple that put it in iOS and OSX for iOS n OSX users to use without any constraint or heads up that it wouldn't work for anyone not on an Apple device. And when iPhone launched there was Blackberry, Symbian, Bada, Palm, Windows Mobile and probably a fair few others. So there was plenty of folks to talk to and go "hey wouldn't it be cool if all phone users could use Emoji, don't you think it'd be neat to develop a standard that works across all handsets?" <blink> is HTML, there's also no guarantee it'll work how you want it too, or if it'll work at all. Same with private-use area. Yeah it's there, but it's shaky territory to use. However : and D and P and > and so on are all definitely part of unicode. Which is part of why it's all a bit of a bitch. It's attempting to create a (badly implemented) standard where one exists already. A universal, platform agnostic system that in usability can be implemented pretty much entirely the same.

Basically it boils down to cultural issues. Imagine the world as an artists box of bits n bobs. You've got the European oil paints, the Japanese inks, the russian crayons and then you've got UK and US as acrylic paints. And due to the shared medium we can swap back n forth rather easily, but as anyone knows who uses paints, you mix colours up shittily and you end up with that turgid swamp brown muck. Britain/England would very much like to remain purple. There's a general feeling of losing national heritage and culture under the massive influx of american culture, words, companies etc taking root so there's a fair amount of push back against it. From a dislike of "Americanisms" to Kraft buying Cadburys to American remakes of UK shows and beyond. Not helped by the fact that generally most American things in those respects tend to be shit. For example Kraft are known for: Sure we have plenty of shit too, but it's british shit. (And I'm pretty sure we don't export much of it either.) It's kinda hard to explain I guess, I'm pretty much petering out here and you can see why I don't finish off too many PXOD articles. Basically it's a bit of a "you had to be there" thing to understand.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19733003 At least the daughter seems to be taking it in good spirits. And the dad isn't being a total douche and at least seems to have a fair amount of love for his daughter to attempt to do this. But it's still kinda wrong.

https://play.google....icproject.scout This looks interesting, but I can't say much more beyond that because it's not supported in my country. I'm going to assume it's not supported yet in England due to the massive battery drain.

DVD and Blu-Rays aren't/weren't exactly "lowest common denominator". USB 1.0 was kinda shit mind, but it's clearly blown past everything since then and moved at a nippy enough pace. And these technologies are created by a consortium of like minded companies to create a standard so that people don't end up with semi-useless disc drives for their xbox, or songs that don't play on their new music player, or their phone charger doesn't work with their new phone, or their website doesn't work in their web browser and so on. Apple is a big company, it's a fairly old one as far as tech does. The web itself was made on a NextStep. And yet it doesn't seem to be too in the business of getting together a group of buddies and hashing out a standard of sorts. It wants to do everything their own way n screw talking it over with everyone else. It's worse than late 90's Microsoft in some cases. And MS went so far down the rabbit hole of fucking over standards that the internet is still picking up the pieces nearly two decades later. And it's neat they're now bashing out a standard with Google, but was it so hard to sit down n have a chat with them about it years back? It now kinda screws over all the devs that implemented the initial emoji "standard" Apple adopted. Which doesn't realyl make it any better than a consortium agreed standard in that aspect really. p.s from what I'm reading of that wiki, it's basically "we left some spare, do with it as you want but it's not part of unicode so don't expect the same thing for every OS/program/whatever"

See I'm in the stance of Ethan. Emoticons are old as the earth and are as standard as it comes: raw text. Then it's up to the platform your on, be it phone, desktop client, internet, IM client whatever, to turn it from a into a . And because underneath it's just raw text it comes out as such, and thus legible, in platforms that don't support that. Compared to emoji which comes out in a variety of errors on a wide range of platforms as previously exampled. Which as best I can tell Emoji is anyway, just it's turning a string of random characters into a instead of the colon n D If it was something Apple implemented that was built purely for use within iOS infrastructure, then sure it's fine. But it's for use within SMS and twitter n such; fairly open multi-platform services. There's a reason why there's organisations like W3C, GSMA etc. They keep things standard for high interoperability on multi-platform services. Apple don't really have the knack of that concept. Also just a heads up but I made like one post and have since been n had a meal out n come back. It's you lot making a big fuss over it without my input. edit: Twitter can use SMS, but it isn't SMS. And SMS doesn't support Emoji either. Twitter does support the sending, the web example shown is that browsers don't support emoji, so doesn't matter if Twitter bothers to add it to their site, it requires the browsers to do so too.

Done, including FDS' suggestion

The ability to see the client isn't a feature of Android, that's the client I use, Twicca. And I'm aware it's via Softbank, it's still not a standard feature, and it's also on all global versions of iOS (and now even in OSX). By using this non-standard/non-global feature it means that iOS basically end up with a feature they're probably aren't aware isn't compatible with any other phone OS/client/app/browser etc beyond iOS/OSX and whoever has gone out their way to get plug-ins. Which means they post gobbledygook as far as any other user is concerned. Especially when everything supports emoticons, and can turn them into pictures if it's there. Like on Android and this forum.