Waldorf and Statler

Regarding PoP '08 the creators have said they haven't forgotten about it. The last PoP was to tie in with the film. I'm kinda glad it sucked so now they can go back to this one. It may have not sold like hot cakes, but at least it did decently in reviews.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. To be completely honest, I only started the New Game+ for the achievement Once I got it I stopped

I am confused. What does this mean for me if I didnt play anything but I did start a new game+? I believe my last save was somewhere in the last mission so worst comes to worst I don't have to do the entire thing again

I'm not a fan either Dean, but if it means getting a satisfying conclusion for my Shepard I'll fucking take it. I AM wondering how this is gonna work though, since [like previous ME titles] once you beat the game you're brought back to a point where you have the chance to explore the galaxy further [in this case a pre-cerberus base state]. So if they ARE gonna bring a new ending, they better give you the option to jump straight to the last arc of the final mission, instead of having to replay it all again.

It won't be free. But fans were only ASKING for it to be free, we'll gladly pay the 10-15 for a better ending if it comes to it.

Even if he IS from the novels, he was such a stereotypical overpowered villain [i mean cyborg ninja really?] that I lost interest over him. The Illusive Man has a purpose, twisted as it is. Oh and if the rumors about "the truth" are true I will literally have gay sex with Bioware and never doubt them again.

It was more of a joke. Kai Leng appears out of nowhere in the game and all of a sudden he's better than you at everything. Not to mention after a certain mission he sends you en email that practically reads "imma kill you shepard, maniacal laugh. maniacal laugh" He was just such a cheesy overpowered bad guy with no personality that it is hard to imagine he came from the same team that delivered us such an intriguing one such as the Illusive Man

Well if he did I sure didn't see it. Everytime I tried talking to him I only got a quick sentence or one of those non-interactive conversations. And most of those involved a war-hungry marine personality. In fact I only got to really speak with him heart to heart dealing with the N7 stuff.

funny you mention that cowboy, somebody already did an 80's parody of what we want for the ending. edit: put under spoiler tags since they do mention SOME of the ending spoilers

Actually yes fuck it. Bioware could literally do walls of text explaining "Garrus got killed by a truck" "Tali got infected with HIV and died" "Joker realized that fucking a machine was not such a good idea" over what they gave us. There's no need for voice actors there. It just needs somebody to give us an official end.

Well I don't know if I'd be able to help out with much since I'm a poor college student and only have so much 'spending' money but Ill help with what I can tomorrow.

Do we have a goal of how much we need to make to keep the forum running?

Highly doubt people liked it. And obviously enough people think the Star Wars prequels are pretty fucking bad if everybody loves Red Letter Media for voicing their opinions in a comical way. I'm sorry to say that people probably didn't care about the ending enough to not see how much of a cheap move it was. Others want to believe that Bioware did it as anything else but a cheap gag. But you don't promise your fans a culmination of all your choices, make statements like "this game won't be choose A, B, or C" and then do exactly like that. Bioware shot themselves on the foot too much. At least Molyneux was forgivable because let's be honest, he never outright stated "this WILL be in the gaming" he was making allegories and similies and generalizations. Casey Hudson outright stated the ending would be unique and awesome. It was definitely unique in its execution, unique from other trilogies that is.

If Bioware was doing everything the customers say, we'd have cheesy romances with every single character, bad fan fiction writing [though Kai Leng is already a gary stu as it is] in every single game and Dragon Age 2 would have played ike Dragon Age Origins. Take your pick as to which of these they should have listened to the fans.

To run a business, you need to please the fans every now and again. Fans want to see companies as these faceless evil men eating dodo eggs in their gold-made ships. Why was Capcom about to release Megaman Legends 3? Because they know that even though there weren't that many fans, they had more than enough money to use this as good karma towards the fans. Wha's the TRUE only reason they cancelled a 3DS title? Out of spite towards Inafune. They give other reasons to not seem petty, but it's pretty fucking obvious it is out of spite. A lot of marketing/business majors will tell you that pleasing the clients every now and again is just as important as making cash cash cash. Look at what happened to Infinity Ward. They make boatloads of cash now sure. But they lost their creators and like 1/3 or 1/2 of their original team. They're used as the butt of all jokes for corporate sellouts. Activision will eventually run this out to death and kill it. Look at Guitar Hero. They stopped giving a shit and now I don't think anybody outrights misses the titles.

I honestly don't even think about the plotpoints they tried to make in the ending much. If Bioware stopped caring, so will I. Oh and any hope that they deliberately trolled fans with the ending is almost out of the question since Casey Hudson recently came out and said they wanted to make the ending "memorable" I agree though. It is quite memorable. Let's say you had a long distance relationship with this beautiful woman for 5 years, seeing her every 1 year or so. Everything is going great. You're in love, nothing in the world seems wrong. You notice she's acting strange this last week that the came to visit. Only a bit off, nothing to condemn her for and honestly she's still as gorgeous ever. She's not talking to you as much as before, but hey when she does her conversations are more mean- oh she just broke up with you and as she was leaving the room she took a shit in her hand and smeared it all over your face. WHAT THE FUCK.

Honestly Liara is probably the most engaging love interest in the whole game. They just fleshed her character the most in the three titles and gave her the best romantic dialogue over-all

If Bioware is actually trolling us and release a DLC ending where the theory is true, I won't only applaud their ingenuity but all is forgiven. That would take balls.

@elev3n

I used to think like that. till I realized this was it and we wouldn't get to see where these characters go from here except maybe a mention of them in a future ME game. No. I wanted a resolution. No excuses. Good for you for being more mature than the rest of us. I am not writing death threats, I'm just angry they can't admit they fucked up with the ending and apologize for giving us such a botched/rushed bullshit ending. which they never will because their smugness is above 4000 ems.

I'm not kidding guys. I think my cynicism over this game is borderline broken nerdy heart. No other game series has fucked me over so much with the ending. Like manly tears would pour out of despair if it wasn't for my hate for Bioware not admitting they fucked up.