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Not sure if playing along or if it's even worse than I've been led to believe.

http://www.teamfortress.com/manniversary/ Check the "Steam Workshop" page

So to go along with the whole "don't have kettles" things. Turns out these are pretty rare too. Two nations separated by a common language my arse, it's white goods where the split is.

Wasn't that only because of the usage of a cathedral in Manchester? Not anything to do with English troops or whatever. If there is more to it, do tell. Yeah over the use of the cathedral . Wasn't that a chicken out move as opposed to a response to negative feedback? Can't really have negative feedback to what wasn't there.

"No Russian" was removed from the Russian edition of MW2. Resistance: FoM also caused a bit of a stir over here in UK.

As has been stated publicly by EA. The actual terms that EA violated are still unknown to the public at large (hence me asking). It just seems really damn odd that Valve would change the terms in such a way that it specifically affects only the titles of their console publishing partner. Whereas EA have been shown to make games that won't work with Steam in any way shape or form (see previous BF3 example). Yeah Burnout had a fair amount. Unsure on BFBC2. Isn't that the one with the DLC on disc/their trial run of Project $10. You're not counting that are you? It's not the consumers fault that EA wanted to have you buy the game on Steam then buy the rest of the game elsewhere. Not really sure how that would be of any benefit to anyone but EA actually. And as mentioned before Steam provides numerous ways for the developer to get to know their customers. (Also EA are the publishers, which act as a further middleman between the developers and customers). I don't think anyone is happy with MSs rules. Even EA. MS rules are you must use MS as a publisher when making an XBLA/XBLIG game (one of the two), Microsofts rule is you must use their servers (unless you're EA or Final Fantasy), Microsofts rule you must pony up in order to use free services or services provided by other companies through separate subscriptions. It's about as closed and "hurts everyone" as they come. The forum is relatively open, even got twitter connect. I'd do Facebook connect but that comes with many nasties. And the database is free and able to move wherever. Compared to the old-old forum. Which is of course why I asked the question. Because I knew the answer. You have a habit of saying "you know that isn't true" a lot btw.

So there's word going out that there is in fact a way to change your Origin ID. Step one: -Buy a smartphone, Android or iOS - Be in the right country (Apps are region locked, try to live in "the west") - Download "Scrabble free" - Android- iOS - log in with your Origin account - Settings/Menu/Cog whatever - "Edit Account" - Voila Was that so hard people?

Woot, breaks. Breaks are good. Gambling breaks even better. Looks pretty pretty too and I'm not really sure why you'd say teh story is iffy. Got time travel but that's not a sure fire "this is bad". Certainly allows to expand the story.

You can still install them how you want. Even without the App store up yet you can still install Metro Apps. (btw this is maybe stuff for the Windows 8 thread)

But you're taking it as a customer buying DLC being beneficial to the customer. That's beneficial to EA, more so if EA don't have to pay a cut to Valve. EA are free to put a little news feed in their game. Mass Effect does this. BF1943 did a ticker too. Told us of beneficial things like BFBC2 coming out and then abandoned it. That's what I assume to be what EA thinks is "beneficial to the customer". Whereas the Valve specturm, we're what 4 years into the release of TF2, the game's still going strong (not shut the servers down yet) and still get's content. So yeah I'm not really a fan of EA's "of benefit to the customer" line of thinking. As for closedness of Steam: http://steampowered.com/steamworks/ http://store.steampowered.com/stats/ http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey and the last two are what they just give joe bloggs public. Talking of smartphones, EA seems to be doing quite well from dealing with iOS despite the major restrictions on there and the massive profit cuts Apple take. And talking of in-app billing :http://store.steampo...%20Multiplayer/ Also what's wrong with forums? http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/ EA can chat right there with their customers. If they wanted to they can also use Steams handy pop up system to tell current customers that there is now DLC out for the EA game they own. They can also use the Steam forums too to also have a bit of back n forth with customers too. As an example (since I was there not so long ago) http://forums.steamp...d.php?t=2093122 the Rock of Ages developers have been posting a fair bit on the Steam forums. That's hardly wanting to cut developers out of the equation. D2D don't offer this to developers. Actually while on the topic: What term was it on Steam that effected only EA games at around the same time as EA was relaunching EADM as Origin? I can understand why BF3 wouldn't be coming to Steam cos it doesn't even work on Origin so no doubt it'd never work well on Steam. But many of the games pulled were already working fine n dandy on Steam. Then one day they just weren't dandy enough. Cos to be totally and brutally honest: It looks like EA engineered something and their complaints of not being able to deal with the customer are totally and utterly unfounded. @Yante: Windows 8 will let you code Apps with nothing but Javascript n HTML instead of Microsofts .NET like OSes of yore. That opens it up to all kinds of developers. And you can still install whatever the hell you want.

btw the price on 3DS games is absolutely shocking. It's like they looked at the App Store and went "yeah let's run in the other direction". £35 for a handheld game? Fuck that.

They said that ad companies are not needed for them. Which they weren't really. They have the Source video maker (or whatever the tool is) so they've being able to make all their own adverts and use their network to distribute many of them too. Also able to leverage many of the games they have on Steam in a major viral marketing scheme for both Portal 2 and the games that got involved. No other ad agency could really offer them that. They're a "platform" compared to stuff like PS3 which is a "product", so they get various advantages with that. It's pretty much free to grab Steam and therefore be advertised to through it. Whereas you can't jsut run the "Michael" thing on PS3 to advertise the PS3. I'd say that his statements regarding the PS3 being a pain to develop for are probably still relevant, though Naughty Dog have done a fair amount with adding to the SDK through Uncharted n Uncharted 2 with the..."Edge Libraries" (Not sure on the name). So it's probably gotten a bit easier. I'd say their main push to give PS3 a shot was how open PSN and Sony are compared to Microsoft with XBL. Which even Thursday has given examples of publishers as large as EA having trouble getting MS to have a shot at new things. Valve wanted Steamworks on a console. Sony opened the door for them. Yeah what MasterDex said is pretty much on the nail with how the whole open n closed stuff compares. Gabe is saying about being open to having other services running on a console. EAs dispute is because EA considers "selling DLC" to be "customer relations" which maybe you want to mentally step out the office a bit on that one cos that's pretty lame line of thinking for EA to have. However if you want customer info then I hear Valve are pretty good with that; given publishers info on who, when, where, what they did minutes before buying your game, who recommended, etc etc. Their sales data I hear is second to none. And EA calling out Valve is a bit like the kettle calling the microwave black since ....EA has Origin and....Origin only sells EA games. And not even all the EA games. And it's closed off from even EA games, none of them can tie in to the Origin API like what Valve has with letting other 3rd party developers use the Steamworks API. And the points about games and friends tied to steam...Origin is any better how? If I buy a game on Origin am I able to associate it with my Steam account in the same way I associated my Dragon Age game that I bought on Steam with my Origin account or are my games locked to Origin?

Ender Dragons are nether only? Well bum. Oh wait just got to 0:59. heheh. Then again Notch said he was going to fix that.

I have the feeling, from previous developer diaries n interviews n what not, that it's not going to have mining in/if it does it's going to be much revamped.

You mean consoles have brought the Steam experience over? (Especially when you take into account they've now started on cloud saves too) (Oh and especially when you realise Steam is quite a bit older than the current consoles) When it comes to closed and open I'd say it's definitely hurting to be closed on consoles. You, as the consumer, are basically trapped by whatever Sony or MS come up with. You want to play MP on 360? You have to pay MS. You want to get a game digitally then you have to pay the absurd prices they charge, with no competition or alternative in sight. The big 3 are going to have to re-jigger and become a bit more open as 8th n 9th gen come and digital becomes more prevalent. Sony is experimenting a bit, with Steam and Dust 514 on the console(and they've had net yarozee and Linux for the past few gens too), but MS is getting tighter n tighter it seems. I know in general the "open vs closed" thing tends to come down to usability, but I just think that's mainly anecdotal and nothing specifically attributed to being either open or closed. E.g on OSX and Windows, the day to day tasks are much of a muchness, they act about the same to the common user. But when it comes to the nitty gritty Windows is much more open whereas on OSX you're being handed safety scissors.

Yeah seems a really retarded way to go about it. It's an entirely separate mode...yet effects SP. Either do full co-op or not at all. Which seems like it could have been the original plan; have the game with proper co-op n all but then found out they either don't have the time or the framework to do it completely so just left a few dregs in. Bioware better hope they know what they're doing or it's gonna end up even worse that the original suspicions of a half arsed tacked on MP.

How do you measure how influential a site is? For one pretty much all the "influential" ratings they have are within tenths of a degree of each other so surely if one other person rated IGN slightly higher then suddenly it'd swap the whole thing around? Also the survey is limited to PS3 and 360 owners only? What fucking crockpot shit is that? (also Yante it's GameSpot not GameStop)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWaANoSZSzE

I understood an "unauthorised adaptation" to be something like this: http://www.opcoder.com/projects/chrono/ or this http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/04/nintendo-shuts-down-zelda-fan-film-four-years-in-the-making/ So an adaptation of the licensed characters/trademarks/settings and turning them into something else. Not the actual code of the game into another format.

Probably been a long time coming. I just feel stuff doesn't always fit in other threads so more sense to have their own. http://www.develop-online.net/news/38853/Newell-Consoles-must-cease-isolating-developers So as part of his Apple musings Gabe also had a bit of a jab at the closed nature of consoles and how it keeps out the developers from interacting with the customers. It's not exactly a theme new to him, he has gained a habit recently of making a few jabs in the Xboxs' direction specifically over XBL. So yeah, thread to discuss Valve n what they/Gabe says/does.

You know I'm looking here and I can't find a EULA on here. At least nothing like what you get most of the times. This is the closest I can find. I'll put in spoiler tags so you don't accidentally go and agree to it by loading up this thread. As long as you only use it yourself it seems that ripping to put on another platform is fine. Nothing I can see. In fact this reads pretty much like what you'd see on a DVD so I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't much thought into EULAs in them days (EULAs back then were probably thought of as just things you put on Operating Systems and MS Office, not games. Cos that'd be fucking retarded)

UK usage of pissed: Person one: "I was pissed last night so I pissed all over your carpet." Person two: "I am pissed that you pissed on my carpet." As mentioned way early on in this thread pretty much anything in UK can be used to mean drunk.